Would be good to get that on a wiki for all so we could update and share as
a resourcee.

Sayth

On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 at 04:47 Christian Weilbach <whitesp...@polyc0l0r.net>
wrote:

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> >> http://viewer.gorilla-repl.org/view.html?source=github&;
> user=ghubber&repo=cnc&path=rincanter.clj
> >>  I am not sure whether this fits the design atm. though. I also
> >> had a look at renjin, but I think the native plugins mandate an
> >> RVM integration atm.
> >>
> >
> > You might find http://beakernotebook.com interesting, if you
> > haven't seen it before. It allows several languages in the same
> > notebook, and has  a simple mechanism for sharing data between the
> > language environments. It's pretty green at the moment, but it has
> > some serious backing, so could be pretty useful once it's got a bit
> > more polish on it. I chatted a little with someone who was hoping
> > to implement a Clojure plugin for it, although I don't know how
> > they've gotten on since.
>
> This is really nice, thank you for pointing out! Effectively though
> this means you need to manually(!) convert data between all cells,
> which only works if serialization between the environments is a lot
> less work than processing the data and you don't want to call alien
> procedures e.g. in a loop. It also means that part of datasets need to
> be hold in memory in all runtimes at the same time. So I am not sure
> whether JSON synchronisation of state between runtimes is good in the
> long run, it feels fairly hacky and having that many runtimes already
> causes a big type-conversion matrix and probably many subtle
> incompatibilities. It is the most pragmatic approach though and
> probably the most successful for now.
>
> They are not opinionated about languages, while I would like to
> integrate data science tooling in Clojure, so it is easier to bring
> people on board, not to make language hopping the top goal, which is
> for mentioned performance reasons and from a Lisp/Clojure perspective
> a bit questionable imo (esp. since all these languages have to drop to
> C to get some performance). I also would like to have the environment
> written in Clojure (read: gorilla). I would be happy to integrate
> Python and R on the JVM, e.g. through Jython and RServe/renjin, which
> allows to share code much better down to direct method dispatch. Do
> you think integrating R cells in this way would be reasonable for you?
> Or just allowing plugins for new cell-types...
> (With RServe manual synchronisation with the RVM is still necessary
> btw., renjin would solve this, but needs more support for CRAN
> packages imho).
>
> >
> > I also have taken a paper I liked and implemented a quick version
> > of
> >
> >> SNE, which was fairly nice to do in Gorilla REPL:
> >>
> >> http://viewer.gorilla-repl.org/view.html?source=github&;
> user=ghubber&repo=cnc&path=stochastic-neighbour-embedding.clj
> >>  A problem seems to be unicode support, I tried to use some math
> >>  symbols from the notation in the paper directly, but the viewer
> >> seems to have a problem with it.
> >>
> >
> > Not sure what the problem is there - my feeling is it should just
> > work, on the Gorilla side. If there's a test case you can point to
> > (with an expected result) I can take a look at it.
>
> The problem is just that viewer.gorilla-repl.org seems to have some
> encoding problems with UTF-8. See the sum sigma symbol for instance:
> https://github.com/ghubber/cnc/blob/master/stochastic-
> neighbour-embedding.clj#L72
> which is corrupted in the viewer. I hoped that was easy to fix.
>
>
> Christian
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