[Forked the thread as per suggestion by Timothy Baldridge.] On Mar 30, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Christian Weilbach <whitesp...@polyc0l0r.net> wrote: > > I have failed to setup Emacs for development and used Vim or Eclipse > primarily before entering Clojure-land. emacs-live allowed me to just > execute a shell script and get a decent Clojure environment which I > have used for 2 years until I have reconfigured my emacs having a > better understanding. Its emphasis on live-coding inspired by > composing music is a very compelling. The only thing I had to add to > emacs live was evil-mode, which wasn't too hard.
I agree that emacs-live is a great step forward! I explored it for a while and considered adopting it for my teaching and research work. (I'm not a software developer, I'm a computer science professor/researcher.) I didn't think it got quite far enough towards meeting my needs for me to make the leap, but it came the closest so far. Perhaps it'd be a good starting point for someone to take the next step. FWIW I try to survey all of the options every year or so, and I currently teach with and mostly use Counterclockwise, although I sometimes recommend Nightcode for newbies. Both of these are great, and I'm immensely grateful to their developers. But if an emacs-based environment came along with the right usability features (see bullet points below) then I'd almost certainly switch to that. -Lee > On 30.03.2015 15:12, Lee Spector wrote: >>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Jony Hudson <jonyepsi...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I propose, instead of this discussion, everyone channels their >>> energy into writing an open-source data-science library, or blog >>> post/article promoting Clojure for data science. In their >>> favourite editor, of course! >>> >>> >>> Jony >> >> >> >> That's a good idea, but I'd also like to say a bit more about the >> pro/con-emacs discussion, which I hope to be constructive. >> >> I think I actually agree with most of the comments both by the >> emacs critics and the emacs proponents in this thread. Even the >> most intense ones, on both sides. But rather than worrying about >> who is more correct I want to point out that it's entirely >> possible, and would be gloriously beautiful, for an emacs-based >> Clojure environment to be produced that: >> >> - Can be downloaded in a single click and run with one more click >> to do basic Clojure development with no further configuration, on >> Mac/Windows/Linux. >> >> - Provides reasonably standard GUI elements (familiar to any >> computer user without reading a manual) for triggering core >> functionality and for discovering additional features. >> >> As some have mentioned in this thread, a lot of work has been done >> on easing configuration (by people on this list among others) and >> there are some GUI-based packages out there, but as far as I know >> there's nothing that comes close to meeting both of the bullet >> points above. I think that most emacs-based folks either don't >> think this is possible or don't see it as a priority, but something >> like this must be possible (and there have been things close to >> this for other Lisps in the past), and if it became a reality that >> I would switch to it for all of my coding and teaching and I'd >> evangelize it from the rooftops. >> >> I'm not in a position to do development work on this myself, but I >> believe quite fervently that this would be a fabulous thing for the >> Clojure community. >> >> I'd be happy to discuss this further off-list and/or beta-test >> projects aimed at these goals. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
