>> That's a good idea, but I'd also like to say a bit more about the pro/con-emacs discussion, which I hope to be constructive.
Discussion is often a good idea, but in a dedicated thread. Perhaps it's time to fork the original topic so that this discussion about editors can continue without derailing this thread even further. Timothy On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Lee Spector <lspec...@hampshire.edu> wrote: > > On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Jony Hudson <jonyepsi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I propose, instead of this discussion, everyone channels their energy > into writing an open-source data-science library, or blog post/article > promoting Clojure for data science. In their favourite editor, of course! > > > > > > Jony > > > > That's a good idea, but I'd also like to say a bit more about the > pro/con-emacs discussion, which I hope to be constructive. > > I think I actually agree with most of the comments both by the emacs > critics and the emacs proponents in this thread. Even the most intense > ones, on both sides. But rather than worrying about who is more correct I > want to point out that it's entirely possible, and would be gloriously > beautiful, for an emacs-based Clojure environment to be produced that: > > - Can be downloaded in a single click and run with one more click to do > basic Clojure development with no further configuration, on > Mac/Windows/Linux. > > - Provides reasonably standard GUI elements (familiar to any computer user > without reading a manual) for triggering core functionality and for > discovering additional features. > > As some have mentioned in this thread, a lot of work has been done on > easing configuration (by people on this list among others) and there are > some GUI-based packages out there, but as far as I know there's nothing > that comes close to meeting both of the bullet points above. I think that > most emacs-based folks either don't think this is possible or don't see it > as a priority, but something like this must be possible (and there have > been things close to this for other Lisps in the past), and if it became a > reality that I would switch to it for all of my coding and teaching and I'd > evangelize it from the rooftops. > > I'm not in a position to do development work on this myself, but I believe > quite fervently that this would be a fabulous thing for the Clojure > community. > > I'd be happy to discuss this further off-list and/or beta-test projects > aimed at these goals. > > -Lee > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- “One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that–lacking zero–they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs.” (Robert Firth) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.