+1 for scary compiler deprecation warning for 1.6.0, then removing :use in the 1.7.0 release.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Softaddicts <lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca>wrote: > I disagree, when I use tracing fns and other useful REPL tools, > I like to have them included without having to prefix them with an alias. > > It's not a hack it's a feature and you are free to use it or not. > If code writers do not care about code readers it's a choice, maybe bad but > that decision is not yours to take. It's theirs in their own context. > > Now this thread has slowly shifted to "can we streamline how we express > this > feature" to "lets forbid this feature to be used". If ends up creating such > "policies" enforced by the language, it's the wrong route. > > My answer to such proposals is a definite "no". This a red line to me that > should > not be crossed. > > Luc P. > > > > > I hate it mainly in blogs, where they explain some new API. They :use > > like 3 namespaces and you have to guess which fn is from which ns :) > > > > Agree. > > Code is read much more often than it is written, so omitting a few > > character is not effective time-saving. > > I also don't like :refer :all. > > I think it should be considered hack rather than official feature. > > > > On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:17:02 AM UTC+9, Jozef Wagner wrote: > > > > > > +1, :use is IMO an antipattern. > > > > > > I hate it mainly in blogs, where they explain some new API. They :use > like > > > 3 namespaces and you have to guess which fn is from which ns :) > > > > > > JW > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:50:50 PM UTC+2, Greg Slepak wrote: > > >> > > >> I think I read somewhere that :use is no longer encouraged, but I > could > > >> be mistaken. > > >> > > >> From what I've read, it seems like most people agree that Clojure has > too > > >> many ways of including/importing/referencing/requiring/using things: > > >> > > >> > > >> > http://blog.8thlight.com/colin-jones/2010/12/05/clojure-libs-and-namespaces-require-use-import-and-ns.html > > >> > > >> The above gives a very nice explanation of all the various difference, > > >> but it also acknowledges their complexity. > > >> > > >> Since :use uses :require, and since :require can do everything that > :use > > >> can, can we simplify Clojure programming a bit for newcomers by > deprecating > > >> the use of :use? The situation in ClojureScript is even worse because > it > > >> adds :require-macros on top of all the other ways of including files. > > >> > > >> Ideally, it would be awesome if there was just a single directive for > > >> everything, but perhaps there's some complicated low-level reason why > > >> that's not possible. :-\ > > >> > > >> Thoughts? > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Greg > > >> > > >> P.S. 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