:use...:only doesn't strike me as especially problematic, since it documents the specific symbols it's importing and from where.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Sean Corfield <seancorfi...@gmail.com>wrote: > We only have :use in a couple of "legacy" tests and two scratch > projects. We've switched from :use to :require .. :refer :all for > situations where :use used to make sense (primarily in a test ns where > we want to just refer in all of the ns being tested). We have a > handful of places where we :refer :all elsewhere because the code > reads better without ns aliases all over the place and we bring in a > lot of functions. > > Certainly in blogs and documentation, :require .. :as short alias > seems a better approach for teaching / explaining things but I'm sure > I'm guilty of :use in earlier blog posts about Clojure (... checking > ... yup, three blog posts from early 2012 contain :use, mostly with > :only, so those should be updated to use :require / :refer instead). > > Sean > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Gary Trakhman <gary.trakh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > We should scour clojuresphere for uses of 'use' and automatically post > > github issues to the projects of interest, and redefine the ns macro to > > issue a warning with use. > > > > Does anyone actually like 'use'? > > > > Require is always more evident. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Jozef Wagner <jozef.wag...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> +1, :use is IMO an antipattern. > >> > >> I hate it mainly in blogs, where they explain some new API. They :use > like > >> 3 namespaces and you have to guess which fn is from which ns :) > >> > >> JW > >> > >> > >> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:50:50 PM UTC+2, Greg Slepak wrote: > >>> > >>> I think I read somewhere that :use is no longer encouraged, but I could > >>> be mistaken. > >>> > >>> From what I've read, it seems like most people agree that Clojure has > too > >>> many ways of including/importing/referencing/requiring/using things: > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://blog.8thlight.com/colin-jones/2010/12/05/clojure-libs-and-namespaces-require-use-import-and-ns.html > >>> > >>> The above gives a very nice explanation of all the various difference, > >>> but it also acknowledges their complexity. > >>> > >>> Since :use uses :require, and since :require can do everything that > :use > >>> can, can we simplify Clojure programming a bit for newcomers by > deprecating > >>> the use of :use? The situation in ClojureScript is even worse because > it > >>> adds :require-macros on top of all the other ways of including files. > >>> > >>> Ideally, it would be awesome if there was just a single directive for > >>> everything, but perhaps there's some complicated low-level reason why > that's > >>> not possible. :-\ > >>> > >>> Thoughts? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Greg > >>> > >>> P.S. 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