We have production code using it. It's easy to say that it's a bad pattern after the fact.
We have been using it in a disciplined way. It simplifies our life in the REPL we have some tools we want to see included automatically each time we switch to a name space. Anything else aside from clojure.core is required using an alias. This minimized name clashes to zero so far. This is easily spottable in the ns macro declarations and is not a source of confusion for us. We have less manipulations to do in the REPL when attaching to the live app with these "defaults" included. I do not mind about the deprecation warning as a first step. However I would like some breathing space before it gets removed entirely. It's just another to do on top of the pile of work we have these times... Luc P. > We should scour clojuresphere for uses of 'use' and automatically post > github issues to the projects of interest, and redefine the ns macro to > issue a warning with use. > > Does anyone actually like 'use'? > > Require is always more evident. > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Jozef Wagner <jozef.wag...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > +1, :use is IMO an antipattern. > > > > I hate it mainly in blogs, where they explain some new API. They :use like > > 3 namespaces and you have to guess which fn is from which ns :) > > > > JW > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:50:50 PM UTC+2, Greg Slepak wrote: > >> > >> I think I read somewhere that :use is no longer encouraged, but I could > >> be mistaken. > >> > >> From what I've read, it seems like most people agree that Clojure has too > >> many ways of including/importing/**referencing/requiring/using things: > >> > >> http://blog.8thlight.com/**colin-jones/2010/12/05/** > >> clojure-libs-and-namespaces-**require-use-import-and-ns.html<http://blog.8thlight.com/colin-jones/2010/12/05/clojure-libs-and-namespaces-require-use-import-and-ns.html> > >> > >> The above gives a very nice explanation of all the various difference, > >> but it also acknowledges their complexity. > >> > >> Since :use uses :require, and since :require can do everything that :use > >> can, can we simplify Clojure programming a bit for newcomers by deprecating > >> the use of :use? The situation in ClojureScript is even worse because it > >> adds :require-macros on top of all the other ways of including files. > >> > >> Ideally, it would be awesome if there was just a single directive for > >> everything, but perhaps there's some complicated low-level reason why > >> that's not possible. :-\ > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Greg > >> > >> P.S. If this has already been brought up you have my sincere apologies. > >> > >> -- > >> Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing > >> with the NSA. > >> > >> -- > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > > your first post. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Clojure" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Softaddicts<lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca> sent by ibisMail from my ipad! -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
