George Oliver: I actually tried penumbra (the graphics lib he uses in the tetris video) and was able to code while running the program. But penumbra is missing some features I would like.
*Adrian*: Are you sure? I think Minecraft uses LWJGL, which is just a library of OpenGL bindings plus some stuff for input and sound, not an engine. And he is coding in Java, not a scripting language. Wujek Srujek: I will take a look at JRebel. Thanks! As several people has mentioned, doing it with a regular REPL is possible with a little bit of care, but as Notch did it with Java instead of Clojure I was curious as to how he did it. On Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:48:19 PM UTC+1, Adrian wrote: > > What you're seeing is a feature of game > Engines that have a scripting engine. With this type of architecture you > can separate the game content from the game engine itself. This allows you > to change the game without recompiling the entire engine unnecessarily. > > > On Mar 23, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Oskar Kvist <oskar...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > John: I don't really understand why you say it's a waste of time. Speeding > up the feedback cycle seems great to me. > > Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread so far! > > On Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:48:28 PM UTC+1, John Smith wrote: >> >> Yes, but are you saving time with this? What types of games do you want >> to make? >> RTS? FPS? RPG? What's the platform that you're targeting? No offense, >> but I've >> seen a lot of people like this (me including :) ), who want to learn >> technology X for... >> wait for it... to make games or something else that's fun. >> >> Look, I'm not trying to be mean, but unless you have a specific goal in >> mind, then >> this new feature is a waste of time :) . >> >> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Oskar Kvist <oskar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It's not about looking cool, it's about saving time. >>> >>> Den lördagen den 23:e mars 2013 kl. 16:03:19 UTC+1 skrev John Smith: >>>> >>>> If you want to make a game, then make a game. Don't worry about looking >>>> "cool" about it. You don't need to have some feature to make something >>>> entertaining :) . >>>> >>>> I'm making a game with a tool called GameMaker. Not as full-featured or >>>> powerful as with a programming language? Sure, but then I want to first >>>> have a game under my belt, then I'll worry about looking cool in the >>>> process >>>> :) . >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Oskar Kvist <oskar...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> I saw this video >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/**watch?v=BES9EKK4Aw4<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BES9EKK4Aw4>of >>>>> Notch coding on Minecraft while the game was running, and of course >>>>> seeing the changes in the running program. He used some kind of debug >>>>> mode >>>>> in his IDE (I don't really know which IDE). I want to make a game, and I >>>>> want to to also be able to code while the program is running. I know this >>>>> sort of thing is common in Lisps, so even without that IDE's debug mode >>>>> it >>>>> should be possible. Is there anything in particular that I need to do or >>>>> look out for in order to make it work? Are there some JVM settings I >>>>> should >>>>> use? Does anyone know how that debug mode works? I kind of understand how >>>>> it can be done with a plain repl, but I don't wanna miss out on anything >>>>> that would make it easier. 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