Then its the same with the python implementation, read my other post :) Having lein-py would hide some of these implementation details.
> A lot of these implementation details bleed out into everyday language use, > let alone using platform libraries. I agree with Sean on that. > > On Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:29:34 PM UTC+2, Luc wrote: > > > > Clojure is Clojure, Java and how much of the core of the is written in it > > is an implementation detail. > > > > No build tool = pain in the .... In large projects. > > > > Luc P. > > > > > > > Yeah, you're right. Clojure itself is just a functional Lisp. > > > > > > But, Clojure is at least 2 languages: Lisp & Java. Lisp by itself isn't > > > that complicated but adding Java makes it much harder. > > > > > > ClojurePY is Lisp and Python. Python has a lower barrier to entry than > > Java. > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Timothy Baldridge > > > <tbald...@gmail.com<javascript:>>wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Clojure is incredibly complicated. > > > > > > > > I'd be careful about going that far. Clojure itself is not really that > > > > complicated. I think it's more the restrictions the JVM puts on it. As > > an > > > > example, see RestFn.java, AFn.java, etc. Since the python VM supports > > > > first-class functions all that complexity isn't needed. > > > > > > > > So I agree with it having a lower barrier of entry (which is one of > > the > > > > reasons I wrote it), but I think that's more the fault of the JVM than > > > > Clojure. > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, that's why I use it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timothy > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > clo...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > > > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient > > with > > > > your first post. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > > your first post. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > -- > > Softaddicts<lprefo...@softaddicts.ca <javascript:>> sent by ibisMail from > > my ipad! > > > > On Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:29:34 PM UTC+2, Luc wrote: > > > > Clojure is Clojure, Java and how much of the core of the is written in it > > is an implementation detail. > > > > No build tool = pain in the .... In large projects. > > > > Luc P. > > > > > > > Yeah, you're right. Clojure itself is just a functional Lisp. > > > > > > But, Clojure is at least 2 languages: Lisp & Java. Lisp by itself isn't > > > that complicated but adding Java makes it much harder. > > > > > > ClojurePY is Lisp and Python. Python has a lower barrier to entry than > > Java. > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Timothy Baldridge > > > <tbald...@gmail.com<javascript:>>wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Clojure is incredibly complicated. > > > > > > > > I'd be careful about going that far. Clojure itself is not really that > > > > complicated. I think it's more the restrictions the JVM puts on it. As > > an > > > > example, see RestFn.java, AFn.java, etc. Since the python VM supports > > > > first-class functions all that complexity isn't needed. > > > > > > > > So I agree with it having a lower barrier of entry (which is one of > > the > > > > reasons I wrote it), but I think that's more the fault of the JVM than > > > > Clojure. > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, that's why I use it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timothy > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > clo...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > > > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient > > with > > > > your first post. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > > your first post. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > -- > > Softaddicts<lprefo...@softaddicts.ca <javascript:>> sent by ibisMail from > > my ipad! > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- Softaddicts<lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca> sent by ibisMail from my ipad! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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