Clojure is Clojure, Java and how much of the core of the is written in it
is an implementation detail.

No build tool = pain in the .... In large projects.

Luc P.


> Yeah, you're right. Clojure itself is just a functional Lisp.
> 
> But, Clojure is at least 2 languages: Lisp & Java. Lisp by itself isn't
> that complicated but adding Java makes it much harder.
> 
> ClojurePY is Lisp and Python. Python has a lower barrier to entry than Java.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Timothy Baldridge 
> <tbaldri...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > >> Clojure is incredibly complicated.
> >
> > I'd be careful about going that far. Clojure itself is not really that
> > complicated. I think it's more the restrictions the JVM puts on it. As an
> > example, see RestFn.java, AFn.java, etc. Since the python VM supports
> > first-class functions all that complexity isn't needed.
> >
> > So I agree with it having a lower barrier of entry (which is one of the
> > reasons I wrote it), but I think that's more the fault of the JVM than
> > Clojure.
> >
> >
> Yeah, that's why I use it.
> 
> 
> >
> > Timothy
> >
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