Sean, I agree with you, of course 2011/9/3 Sean Corfield <seancorfi...@gmail.com>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Kevin Downey <redc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I spent a lot of time on a windows netbook writing solutions to euler > > project problems notepad++ and just pasting the functions into a repl > > running in a console. It worked great. > > Yup, and that's just fine _for you_ but you are not the target > demographic being discussed :) For folks comfortable with a command > line and a simple text editor, the REPL is a very reasonable "first > step". I come from a Unix background in the 80's and, like you, I'm > perfectly happy with a REPL and vim - but these days I live in Eclipse > so, for me, CCW is the best choice (with a live REPL open in Eclipse > all the time). > > I guess the question is: how serious are we about catering to the > general developer at large? My experience over the years, dealing with > a lot of Windows developers, is what makes me push back on this. I've > seen a very large number of experienced developers on Windows who > don't know how to do anything on the command line - if it doesn't have > a GUI, they won't touch it. > > So, do we want to help those developers learn Clojure? > > If our consensus answer as a community is "no", that's fine but I just > want us to be clear about that. The Scala community get flak for a > widely perceived attitude that says "if you're too dumb to understand > the type system, go away and stop bothering us". I hear from a lot of > Clojure n00bs who find the focus on the command line (and the focus on > Emacs!) to be very off-putting. I'd rather we didn't alienate those > folks but I don't know how the Clojure community as a whole feels > about that? > -- > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ > World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ > Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ > > "Perfection is the enemy of the good." > -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
