Jonathan--- I think some of your criticisms of Clooj are valid, as Lee has said; my question is not whether Clooj is perfect or even good, my question is if there is a better option for an outright newcomer. An outright newcomer may not be so worried about adding jars, or used to existing REPL behavior; an outright newcomer cannot be assumed to know anything about running java at the command line (and having to run Clojure from the directory where it is installed seems pretty ad-hoc and unclean anyhow). Finally, when it does come time to add jars, he should be looking at Lein, as I suggested.
(One thing this reminds me of is that especially in the post-Lion era, we should remind users to intall java if they have not already done so.) The suggestion to make Clooj the starting point actually came about from the group, as you can see in the thread below: http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/browse_thread/thread/5c4c36afcd73b24e/a8e3b4c6ac7b20a0?lnk=gst&q=clooj#a8e3b4c6ac7b20a0 In any case, aside from Clooj, do you have any other issues with my proposed Getting Started page, or do you think the current Getting Started page is better? (It's worth pointing out that the java -cp command is already on clojure.org, so I'm not sure if we need to repeat it on dev.clojure.) Thanks, Nick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en