Jonathan---

I think some of your criticisms of Clooj are valid, as Lee has said;
my question is not whether Clooj is perfect or even good, my question
is if there is a better option for an outright newcomer.  An outright
newcomer may not be so worried about adding jars, or used to existing
REPL behavior; an outright newcomer cannot be assumed to know anything
about running java at the command line (and having to run Clojure from
the directory where it is installed seems pretty ad-hoc and unclean
anyhow).  Finally, when it does come time to add jars, he should be
looking at Lein, as I suggested.

(One thing this reminds me of is that especially in the post-Lion era,
we should remind users to intall java if they have not already done
so.)

The suggestion to make Clooj the starting point actually came about
from the group, as you can see in the thread below:

http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/browse_thread/thread/5c4c36afcd73b24e/a8e3b4c6ac7b20a0?lnk=gst&q=clooj#a8e3b4c6ac7b20a0

In any case, aside from Clooj, do you have any other issues with my
proposed Getting Started page, or do you think the current Getting
Started page is better?

(It's worth pointing out that the java -cp command is already on
clojure.org, so I'm not sure if we need to repeat it on dev.clojure.)

Thanks,

Nick.

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