Is there any reason why the 'Getting Started' shouldn't essentially follow the form:
1. Download clojure and unzip 2. Move to the folder and type 'java -cp clojure.jar clojure.main' in a terminal For the sake of testing your new page, I downloaded clooj (ugly ugly name) and ran it. On trying to create a project, the first question after specifying a project folder was: Please enter a fully-qualified namespace [ ] huh? This is hardly the kind of thing that's conducive to playing about happily discovering functional programming. Can I have multiple prompts in clooj? Can I easily pull in clojure files. Where do I specify other jars? Classpath? There's a huge set of advantages to starting in a terminal: 1. You can *see* the line that starts Clojure. If something's broken, you have a starting point. 2. You can easily add jars. 3. You can start multiple terminal windows to try different things. 4. You can use your preferred editors, anything from notepad+ up, instead of some incomplete 'IDE' [Note: without starting a project, typing in the bottom right window executed commands with the input and output sort of interleaved, but without my input shown against user=>, instead shown below it.] I'd suggest that having beginners to the language start off in a terminal typing into a REPL is absolutely the best possible thing. Packaging a jReadline would be smart too. Thanks, and I shall now go back into hibernation. Jonathan On Sep 2, 5:34 pm, Sean Corfield <seancorfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think this is a much better on ramp for folks new to Clojure and the > "bullet list" of the current "Getting Started" page really should be > the "next page" not the first one. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:13 PM, nchurch <nchubr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There was some discussion about the Getting Started page last night at > > the Bay Area meetup. I've put together an (I think) improved version > > at > > >http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+for+Beginners > > > Any suggestions/additions/deletions? If this overall looks good, may > > I replace the current page at > > >http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started > > > with this one? I'd put the current page under "other options", > > because it gives a lot of choices. > > > My hope was to give a relatively clean path for beginners (who are the > > audience for Getting Started), instead of just throwing everything > > there is at them without comment. Someone who has been around Clojure > > for a while knows that Lein is much more standard than Gradle, but to > > a reader of the current Getting Started page they look the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
