Ok... Fair enough. Most of my comment related to Spring, not to Grails. Grails has other issues which I won't get into here.
I have nothing but respect for Rails, and I look forward to the day when Clojure has a comparable system. On Nov 2, 2:32 pm, Wilson MacGyver <wmacgy...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Luke VanderHart > > <luke.vanderh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > fanvie, two comments: > > 2. You don't need 99% of the special crap that Spring/Grails gives > > you. Clojure's abstractions are smaller, yes, but the're just as > > powerful, and give you more control, in a more standardized way, then > > Spring does. > > I'll take exception to this comment. I think calling what grails as a > framework > provide you as "special crap", is at best, a disservice to grails as well as > other web framework. > > At the end of the day, people want to deliver a solution for a problem they > are > working on. Not focusing on "oh look, shiny technology and abstractions" > > There is value in being able to define a domain object, and right off the bat > have ORM taken care of for you, tables created, controllers setup > with CRUD/webservice/scafold. > > and then grails war to produce a complete single war file to deploy to any > java application server. > > Not everyone "needs" it, but that doesn't make it crap. > > --- > Omnem crede diem tibi diluxisse supremum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en