On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Luke VanderHart <luke.vanderh...@gmail.com> wrote: > fanvie, two comments: > 2. You don't need 99% of the special crap that Spring/Grails gives > you. Clojure's abstractions are smaller, yes, but the're just as > powerful, and give you more control, in a more standardized way, then > Spring does.
I'll take exception to this comment. I think calling what grails as a framework provide you as "special crap", is at best, a disservice to grails as well as other web framework. At the end of the day, people want to deliver a solution for a problem they are working on. Not focusing on "oh look, shiny technology and abstractions" There is value in being able to define a domain object, and right off the bat have ORM taken care of for you, tables created, controllers setup with CRUD/webservice/scafold. and then grails war to produce a complete single war file to deploy to any java application server. Not everyone "needs" it, but that doesn't make it crap. --- Omnem crede diem tibi diluxisse supremum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en