On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Luke VanderHart
<luke.vanderh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> fanvie, two comments:
> 2. You don't need 99% of the special crap that Spring/Grails gives
> you. Clojure's abstractions are smaller, yes, but the're just as
> powerful, and give you more control, in a more standardized way, then
> Spring does.

I'll take exception to this comment. I think calling what grails as a framework
provide you as "special crap", is at best, a disservice to grails as well as
other web framework.

At the end of the day, people want to deliver a solution for a problem they are
working on. Not focusing on "oh look, shiny technology and abstractions"

There is value in being able to define a domain object, and right off the bat
have ORM taken care of for you, tables created, controllers setup
with CRUD/webservice/scafold.

and then grails war to produce a complete single war file to deploy to any
java application server.

Not everyone "needs" it, but that doesn't make it crap.

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