The logged function would have to be already a generic method, no?

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Matt Fowles <matt.fow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All~
> My clojure is fairly weak, but the particular example given would be
> accomplished in common lisp using generic methods and the
>  :around modifier...
> http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/~jeff/clos-guide.html
> Matt
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Alan <a...@malloys.org> wrote:
>>
>> My guess is no. It would remove a huge benefit of Clojure, which is
>> that you can tell, without having to look over the whole codebase,
>> exactly what a given form does. (my-thing 20 [x y]) invokes my-thing,
>> a function or macro, with 20 as its first argument, and then a vector
>> of locals. No need to hunt down x and y, they're in the lexical scope;
>> no need to guess at the syntax for my-thing. If you can have magical
>> functions that transparently adjust forms all over the codebase, it
>> becomes extremely difficult to be sure of what some code is doing,
>> even without "abuse".
>>
>> Also, metamacros would be very hard to write *right*. Two of them
>> might compete over a chunk of code, accidentally falling into infinite
>> co-recursion. Layering them would be very tricky, too: do you apply
>> them before or after regular macros? If you try to do both you may end
>> up compiling forever, alternating between different types of macro
>> expansions. But suppose you want to write your logging function to
>> modify all function definitions, and someone has written this code:
>> (def call-listish (fn [fn elem] (fn [elem] 10)))
>>
>> How on earth will you know that the first instance of (fn [x] y) is a
>> function declaration, and the second isn't?
>>
>> On Sep 15, 11:03 am, Luke VanderHart <luke.vanderh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Any thoughts? I grant you, the potential for abuse is huge. Would the
>> > benefits outweigh it?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > -Luke V.
>>
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