Interesting. I've now installed clojure-indent and it looks like it improves indentation when you type a newline, but doesn't provide a way to re-indent the current line or selection, which is the key feature. Maybe it's there but I don't see it?
I guess one could delete and then re-enter each newline and it'll end up re-indented, but that's not usable. Thanks, -Lee On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 2:27:10 PM UTC-4, Nando Breiter wrote: > > I haven't tried it, but > > https://atom.io/packages/clojure-indent > <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fatom.io%2Fpackages%2Fclojure-indent&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHEKoo1YZpGSxfwazXg2Vp51aIYaQ> > > ? > > > > Aria Media Sagl > +41 (0)76 303 4477 cell > skype: ariamedia > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 5:30 PM, 'Lee' via Clojure < > clo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> Probably true that my requirements are a bigger challenge for >> multi-language IDEs. I thought Eclipse/Counterclockwise did a reasonable >> job of it back when that was an active project, but it was a bit rough too, >> since there was a lot of incidental and distracting complexity in dealing >> with Eclipse in general. >> >> I did see the "off" setting for parinfer/paredit in Cursive, but it's not >> really "off" in the sense of behaving like a normal text editor, and I >> don't see re-indentation anywhere. FWIW since this is for teaching I'm not >> really interested in customization, just reasonable behavior out of the box. >> >> >> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 11:21:47 AM UTC-4, Rick Mangi wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, I actually just create projects with lein. If you right click on a >>> project.clj you can just fire up a repl via lein and it works really well. >>> There's 3 choices for parenthesis, there's again a little button on the >>> bottom right to switch between parinfer/paredit and off. You can customize >>> all of the code reformatting and you can even alias things like defnp and >>> other macros to evaluate correctly. >>> >>> That said, a tool that supports dozens of languages isn't going to do >>> any of them particularly easily :) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:18 AM 'Lee' via Clojure < >>> clo...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Rick. >>>> >>>> Just tried Cursive again but it still seems to fail pretty badly on >>>> newbie setup and usability, which is what has hung me up in the past. >>>> >>>> tldr: A half hour or so after a fresh install and going through the >>>> Getting Started instructions I still don't have a REPL (confused about Run >>>> Configurations and what I'm seeing doesn't match the website pics), and >>>> although I can edit code in an existing project with drag and drop (can't >>>> yet create a project with a core.clj), even the "Structural Off" editing >>>> mode behaves oddly and doesn't appear to support structure-aware >>>> re-indentation (again, unless I'm missing it). And the indentation that it >>>> prefers after a newline appears to be non-standard (e.g. after "(defn >>>> foo"). >>>> >>>> I follow the Cursive mailing list and I know that a lot of people find >>>> it to be a wonderful tool, but I don't think it meets my requirements. >>>> >>>> -Lee >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 10:43:36 AM UTC-4, Rick Mangi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I find intellij + cursive to be pretty darn easy to use, and the repl >>>>> has an option to turn off parinfer. That said, I'm not a beginner. The >>>>> only >>>>> drawback that I can think of other than price is that the clojure >>>>> functionality is mostly put under a single menu and it's sometimes >>>>> awkward >>>>> to navigate to subcommands. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 9:48 AM Alex Miller <al...@puredanger.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think Atom and VSCode are probably the two additional ones you >>>>>> might want to look into? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 8:45:34 AM UTC-5, Lee wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is my roughly-annual check-in to see if there are new good >>>>>>> editing/execution options for me to use in my Clojure teaching and >>>>>>> coding. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My requirements are: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Simple installation/setup, even for new programmers, on >>>>>>> Mac/Win/Linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Usable by new programmers without significant training or learning >>>>>>> curve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Syntax-aware re-indentation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Visual indication of matching brackets (e.g. matching bracket >>>>>>> highlighted, or rainbow brackets, etc.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - No required use of paredit or parinfer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bells and whistles that would help but aren't as critical as the >>>>>>> requirements listed above: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Access to argument lists, documentation, and symbol completion >>>>>>> while typing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Integrated REPL, although a command-line REPL paired with an >>>>>>> editor that met the requirements above would work >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would be interested in solutions that work for Clojure and >>>>>>> Clojurescript, or just Clojure, or just Clojurescript. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Recent developments of which I'm aware but fall short of my >>>>>>> requirements: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Nightcode and Lightmod, which would be fabulous if not for the >>>>>>> required use of parinfer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Jupyter-based approaches, which also seem great except I see none >>>>>>> with syntax-aware re-indentation for Clojure >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI what I'm currently using is a combination of Gorilla REPL and >>>>>>> leiningen at the command line. This is quite nice although >>>>>>> installation/setup is not as easy or foolproof as I would like (I've >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> students who tried and failed to get it working on their Windows >>>>>>> laptops >>>>>>> for an entire semester, messing with Java versions etc.), Gorilla REPL >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> not very actively maintained, and the requirement to do some things at >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> command line isn't ideal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Options I've used in the past, which more-or-less met my >>>>>>> requirements but are no longer viable, include Clooj, Nightcode (old >>>>>>> versions, before parinfer), and Counterclockwise. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also try to keep an eye on "high-end" IDEs like Emacs and Cursive, >>>>>>> but so far haven't found any that really meet my requirements for >>>>>>> simple >>>>>>> installation/setup and usability for beginners. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any pointers would be very much appreciated! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Lee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Lee Spector, Professor of Computer Science >>>>>>> Director, Institute for Computational Intelligence >>>>>>> Hampshire College, Amherst, Massachusetts, 01002, USA >>>>>>> lspe...@hampshire.edu, http://hampshire.edu/lspector/, 413-559-5352 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>>>> with your first post. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>>> your first post. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:> >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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