I haven't tried it, but https://atom.io/packages/clojure-indent ?
Aria Media Sagl +41 (0)76 303 4477 cell skype: ariamedia On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 5:30 PM, 'Lee' via Clojure <clojure@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > Probably true that my requirements are a bigger challenge for > multi-language IDEs. I thought Eclipse/Counterclockwise did a reasonable > job of it back when that was an active project, but it was a bit rough too, > since there was a lot of incidental and distracting complexity in dealing > with Eclipse in general. > > I did see the "off" setting for parinfer/paredit in Cursive, but it's not > really "off" in the sense of behaving like a normal text editor, and I > don't see re-indentation anywhere. FWIW since this is for teaching I'm not > really interested in customization, just reasonable behavior out of the box. > > > On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 11:21:47 AM UTC-4, Rick Mangi wrote: >> >> Yeah, I actually just create projects with lein. If you right click on a >> project.clj you can just fire up a repl via lein and it works really well. >> There's 3 choices for parenthesis, there's again a little button on the >> bottom right to switch between parinfer/paredit and off. You can customize >> all of the code reformatting and you can even alias things like defnp and >> other macros to evaluate correctly. >> >> That said, a tool that supports dozens of languages isn't going to do any >> of them particularly easily :) >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:18 AM 'Lee' via Clojure < >> clo...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Rick. >>> >>> Just tried Cursive again but it still seems to fail pretty badly on >>> newbie setup and usability, which is what has hung me up in the past. >>> >>> tldr: A half hour or so after a fresh install and going through the >>> Getting Started instructions I still don't have a REPL (confused about Run >>> Configurations and what I'm seeing doesn't match the website pics), and >>> although I can edit code in an existing project with drag and drop (can't >>> yet create a project with a core.clj), even the "Structural Off" editing >>> mode behaves oddly and doesn't appear to support structure-aware >>> re-indentation (again, unless I'm missing it). And the indentation that it >>> prefers after a newline appears to be non-standard (e.g. after "(defn foo"). >>> >>> I follow the Cursive mailing list and I know that a lot of people find >>> it to be a wonderful tool, but I don't think it meets my requirements. >>> >>> -Lee >>> >>> >>> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 10:43:36 AM UTC-4, Rick Mangi wrote: >>>> >>>> I find intellij + cursive to be pretty darn easy to use, and the repl >>>> has an option to turn off parinfer. That said, I'm not a beginner. The only >>>> drawback that I can think of other than price is that the clojure >>>> functionality is mostly put under a single menu and it's sometimes awkward >>>> to navigate to subcommands. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 9:48 AM Alex Miller <al...@puredanger.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think Atom and VSCode are probably the two additional ones you might >>>>> want to look into? >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 8:45:34 AM UTC-5, Lee wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is my roughly-annual check-in to see if there are new good >>>>>> editing/execution options for me to use in my Clojure teaching and >>>>>> coding. >>>>>> >>>>>> My requirements are: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Simple installation/setup, even for new programmers, on >>>>>> Mac/Win/Linux >>>>>> >>>>>> - Usable by new programmers without significant training or learning >>>>>> curve >>>>>> >>>>>> - Syntax-aware re-indentation >>>>>> >>>>>> - Visual indication of matching brackets (e.g. matching bracket >>>>>> highlighted, or rainbow brackets, etc.) >>>>>> >>>>>> - No required use of paredit or parinfer >>>>>> >>>>>> Bells and whistles that would help but aren't as critical as the >>>>>> requirements listed above: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Access to argument lists, documentation, and symbol completion >>>>>> while typing >>>>>> >>>>>> - Integrated REPL, although a command-line REPL paired with an editor >>>>>> that met the requirements above would work >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be interested in solutions that work for Clojure and >>>>>> Clojurescript, or just Clojure, or just Clojurescript. >>>>>> >>>>>> Recent developments of which I'm aware but fall short of my >>>>>> requirements: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Nightcode and Lightmod, which would be fabulous if not for the >>>>>> required use of parinfer >>>>>> >>>>>> - Jupyter-based approaches, which also seem great except I see none >>>>>> with syntax-aware re-indentation for Clojure >>>>>> >>>>>> FYI what I'm currently using is a combination of Gorilla REPL and >>>>>> leiningen at the command line. This is quite nice although >>>>>> installation/setup is not as easy or foolproof as I would like (I've had >>>>>> students who tried and failed to get it working on their Windows laptops >>>>>> for an entire semester, messing with Java versions etc.), Gorilla REPL is >>>>>> not very actively maintained, and the requirement to do some things at >>>>>> the >>>>>> command line isn't ideal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Options I've used in the past, which more-or-less met my requirements >>>>>> but are no longer viable, include Clooj, Nightcode (old versions, before >>>>>> parinfer), and Counterclockwise. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also try to keep an eye on "high-end" IDEs like Emacs and Cursive, >>>>>> but so far haven't found any that really meet my requirements for simple >>>>>> installation/setup and usability for beginners. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any pointers would be very much appreciated! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> -Lee >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Lee Spector, Professor of Computer Science >>>>>> Director, Institute for Computational Intelligence >>>>>> Hampshire College, Amherst, Massachusetts, 01002, USA >>>>>> lspe...@hampshire.edu, http://hampshire.edu/lspector/, 413-559-5352 >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>>> with your first post. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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