I humbly propose that folks shouldn't complain about Clojure being
slow for their apps until they have at least one of the following:

1. A targeted benchmark for an important bottleneck in their
application, implemented in both Clojure and the current
implementation language, with performance results; or

2. A performance model based on an understanding of the Clojure and
HotSpot compilation processes, that highlights which particular
features of the latter would make their application slower than in its
current implementation language.

This is not out of elitism but out of an earnest desire to be helpful;
it's hard to give good advice on language choice and code optimization
when we don't know what the bottlenecks are.  Also it's really hard
for anyone to optimize their own code unless they themselves know
where the bottlenecks are.  The latter means that #1 above is
surprisingly easy; it often can be done with a simple function trace
of a typical run.

mfh
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