On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Simon Hobson wrote:
Jerry wrote:
So, rather than update ClamAV and/or their OS, which in the
majority of
cases would involve no monetary expense, users will purchase new
servers and flock en masse to Microsoft, spend thousands more on
Microsoft Windows Server 2010, Exchange, etc and learn new skills to
administer said network. Could I ask you a personal question; are you
on drugs and if so, can I have some because that is one hell of a
trip
you are on?
You really think they don't do that ? In the real world, PHBs all
over do take just that sort of decision - how else do you think MS
got where they are.
Yes and they get exactly what the deserve and PAY for when they
switch.......
Furthermore, why wouldn't these <quote>small companies running their
crappy and old mailing systems</quote> install updated versions of
the
OS, etc they all ready have installed?
In many cases, they will have systems that were installed for them
some time ago, and that they no longer have paid support for. When
it "dies" they'll go to someone to "fix it" - and lets face it,
there are a lot more outfits that will tell them they need an
Exchange server than there are that will tell them it's an easy fix.
I've seen it more than once. IN fact, I was thinking about the mail
server at my last job as I wrote the previous paragraph - then
thought I ought to warn the guy left to run it - and then remembered
that it dies a while ago with a disk failure and they switched to
using hosted Exchange. So yes, a real example where they decided to
replace the free and functional software with something they pay for
and which does less.
That's PHBs for you. Weird, but believe me, it happens - and
incidentally, guess what my current employer loves to sell :-/
Eric Rostetter wrote:
At no point have I seen anything in the logs on my servers to say
it was going to be turned off. Like many others, the first I knew
was when I got to work this morning and the server wasn't working.
Because they should have obviously jumped in the way-back-machine
and changed the 5 year old software you use to warn you about a
future
event that wasn't known 5 years ago?
Or because they should have hacked into your machine and placed the
notice
there for you?
Or should they have gone personally to your house last night and
knocked
on your door to tell you?
Or they could have put it on their website at the one page that does
appear in the log - but they didn't put it on the FAQ page at all.
As it happens, I **HAVE** been to the FAQ page in the last few
months and had it been there like it is on the front page then I
would have seen it.
So in that respect, a very simple edit to the website could have
made a significant difference - I doubt I'm alone.
Jason Bertoch <ja...@i6ix.com> wrote:
It's broke
It is now
please go fix it.
I will, now I know about it. But it would have been nice to do it at
a more convenient time, and with advance notice so I could use it to
get some resource allocated by management.
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