Cool! Thanks.
TTFN - Guy > On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > Not a single reference, but these two directories should provide most of > what you need: > > http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/1000/ > > http://hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?hwdoc=108 > > The CE Handbook, Loader ROMS, Interfaces, and Standard Memory manuals will > all be useful. > > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > >> OK, thanks. >> >> Is there a sheet somewhere that I can use to decode all of these part >> numbers? >> >> TTFN - Guy >> >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sorry, I mistyped. 12746A is a 64KB (32KW) memory module. >>> >>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: >>> >>>> Except that I don?t have a 12745A memory board, I believe it?s a 12746A >>>> which I think I saw was a 16K board. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> TTFN - Guy >>>> >>>>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk >>>>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2102B is the Standard Performance Memory Controller >>>>> 12745A is a 64KB (32KW) memory board >>>>> 12897B is a DCPC (Dual Channel Port Controller) >>>>> 12992B is a 7905/7906/7920/7925 disc loader PROM >>>>> 12892B is a Memory Protect board >>>>> 12944B is the Power Fail Recovery System >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks all! >>>>>> >>>>>> The trick was opening up the front panel (I?m used to keylocks that are >>>>>> only electrical and not just physical). >>>>>> >>>>>> Here?s the HP label with the options: >>>>>> CPU 2103 >>>>>> MEM BP 1713 >>>>>> IO BP 1727 >>>>>> Accessories >>>>>> 12992B >>>>>> 12944B >>>>>> 2102B >>>>>> 12897B >>>>>> 12892B >>>>>> 12746A >>>>>> >>>>>> In opening the panel on the front card cage, I saw that it only had 16K >>>>>> of memory. :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> I?ll see about firing it up and if that goes well (anyone have >>>>>> suggestions for this type of mini?) I?ll see if I find more memory and >>>>>> suitable peripherals. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> TTFN - Guy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk >>>>>>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The original M-Series machines were the 2105A and the 2108A (9-slot), >>>>>>> which sound like what you have. The early machines didn't say >>>>>>> "M-Series" on the front panel, and had a different lock than the later >>>>>>> models: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/HP/2108A/HP2108A-8L.jpg (my model 2108A) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Early models had the power switch on the back panel, while later models >>>>>>> had it behind the front panel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It sounds like you might have a later model M. It would be helpful to >>>>>>> see a closeup of the read card cage (with readable labels), as well as >>>>>>> the front card cage. The front card cage is accessed by unlocking the >>>>>>> panel and removing the cover on the right side over the card cage. >>>>>>> That's where the memory boards live. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It?s a 9-slot variant that says HP-1000 M-Series on the front panel. >>>>>>>> From what I can tell the front panel appears to be the same as any of >>>>>>>> the other HP-1000 series. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I?m trying to figure out is what the actual CPU configuration is >>>>>>>> without disassembly (which I still need to figure out) so that I can >>>>>>>> actually examine the boards. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TTFN - Guy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Norman Jaffe via cctalk >>>>>>>>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you provide a picture of the front panel? >>>>>>>>> 2113 implies a 21MX-E; the nine-slot version is a 2109 while the >>>>>>>>> fourteen-slot would be a 2113. >>>>>>>>> This might help - https://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=109 . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> >>>>>>>>> To: "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:52:18 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Identification of an HP minicomputer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have sitting in my pile of stuff an HP minicomputer that I?m trying >>>>>>>>> to identify (at least in terms of exactly what it is and what sort of >>>>>>>>> configuration it might have). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell, it?s an HP-1000 M-Series minicomputer (that >>>>>>>>> should hopefully get us *some* details). The ?asset tag? lists the >>>>>>>>> part number as 2113023-108. Looking at the back there?s space for 9 >>>>>>>>> I/O cards (5 are occupied). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So my question is which of the several CPUs could this be and how do >>>>>>>>> I tell (for example) what the configuration is (e.g. how much memory, >>>>>>>>> etc). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I have looked on bitsavers, but short of disassembling the box >>>>>>>>> to look at the (at least) 2 boards that are below the I/O slots, I >>>>>>>>> can?t tell what?s there and I?d like to see if there?s a way to >>>>>>>>> determine what this is without resorting to disassembly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TTFN - Guy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us >>>>>>> Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us >>>>> Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us >>> Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ >> >> > > Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us > Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
