Sorry, I mistyped.  12746A is a 64KB (32KW) memory module.

On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:

Except that I don?t have a 12745A memory board, I believe it?s a 12746A which I 
think I saw was a 16K board.

Thanks.

TTFN - Guy

On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
wrote:


  2102B is the Standard Performance Memory Controller
  12745A is a 64KB (32KW) memory board
  12897B is a DCPC (Dual Channel Port Controller)
  12992B is a 7905/7906/7920/7925 disc loader PROM
  12892B is a Memory Protect board
  12944B is the Power Fail Recovery System

On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:

Thanks all!

The trick was opening up the front panel (I?m used to keylocks that are only 
electrical and not just physical).

Here?s the HP label with the options:
CPU 2103
MEM BP 1713
IO BP 1727
Accessories
12992B
12944B
2102B
12897B
12892B
12746A

In opening the panel on the front card cage, I saw that it only had 16K of 
memory.  :-(

I?ll see about firing it up and if that goes well (anyone have suggestions for 
this type of mini?) I?ll see if I find more memory and suitable peripherals.

Thanks.

TTFN - Guy


On Aug 12, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
wrote:


 The original M-Series machines were the 2105A and the 2108A (9-slot), which sound like 
what you have.  The early machines didn't say "M-Series" on the front panel, 
and had a different lock than the later models:

http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/HP/2108A/HP2108A-8L.jpg (my model 2108A)

 Early models had the power switch on the back panel, while later models had it 
behind the front panel.

 It sounds like you might have a later model M. It would be helpful to see a 
closeup of the read card cage (with readable labels), as well as the front card 
cage.  The front card cage is accessed by unlocking the panel and removing the 
cover on the right side over the card cage.  That's where the memory boards 
live.

On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote:

It?s a 9-slot variant that says HP-1000 M-Series on the front panel.  From what 
I can tell the front panel appears to be the same as any of the other HP-1000 
series.

What I?m trying to figure out is what the actual CPU configuration is without 
disassembly (which I still need to figure out) so that I can actually examine 
the boards.

Thanks.

TTFN - Guy

On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Norman Jaffe via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
wrote:

Can you provide a picture of the front panel?
2113 implies a 21MX-E; the nine-slot version is a 2109 while the fourteen-slot 
would be a 2113.
This might help - https://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=109 .

From: "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
To: "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:52:18 PM
Subject: Identification of an HP minicomputer

Hi,

I have sitting in my pile of stuff an HP minicomputer that I?m trying to 
identify (at least in terms of exactly what it is and what sort of 
configuration it might have).

As far as I can tell, it?s an HP-1000 M-Series minicomputer (that should 
hopefully get us *some* details). The ?asset tag? lists the part number as 
2113023-108. Looking at the back there?s space for 9 I/O cards (5 are occupied).

So my question is which of the several CPUs could this be and how do I tell 
(for example) what the configuration is (e.g. how much memory, etc).

Yes, I have looked on bitsavers, but short of disassembling the box to look at 
the (at least) 2 boards that are below the I/O slots, I can?t tell what?s there 
and I?d like to see if there?s a way to determine what this is without 
resorting to disassembly.

Thanks.

TTFN - Guy



Mike Loewen                             mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology                          http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/



Mike Loewen                             mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology                          http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/



Mike Loewen                             mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
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