OK, thanks.

Is there a sheet somewhere that I can use to decode all of these part numbers?

TTFN - Guy

> On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>   Sorry, I mistyped.  12746A is a 64KB (32KW) memory module.
> 
> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
> 
>> Except that I don?t have a 12745A memory board, I believe it?s a 12746A 
>> which I think I saw was a 16K board.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> TTFN - Guy
>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  2102B is the Standard Performance Memory Controller
>>>  12745A is a 64KB (32KW) memory board
>>>  12897B is a DCPC (Dual Channel Port Controller)
>>>  12992B is a 7905/7906/7920/7925 disc loader PROM
>>>  12892B is a Memory Protect board
>>>  12944B is the Power Fail Recovery System
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks all!
>>>> 
>>>> The trick was opening up the front panel (I?m used to keylocks that are 
>>>> only electrical and not just physical).
>>>> 
>>>> Here?s the HP label with the options:
>>>> CPU 2103
>>>> MEM BP 1713
>>>> IO BP 1727
>>>> Accessories
>>>> 12992B
>>>> 12944B
>>>> 2102B
>>>> 12897B
>>>> 12892B
>>>> 12746A
>>>> 
>>>> In opening the panel on the front card cage, I saw that it only had 16K of 
>>>> memory.  :-(
>>>> 
>>>> I?ll see about firing it up and if that goes well (anyone have suggestions 
>>>> for this type of mini?) I?ll see if I find more memory and suitable 
>>>> peripherals.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> TTFN - Guy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk 
>>>>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The original M-Series machines were the 2105A and the 2108A (9-slot), 
>>>>> which sound like what you have.  The early machines didn't say "M-Series" 
>>>>> on the front panel, and had a different lock than the later models:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/HP/2108A/HP2108A-8L.jpg (my model 2108A)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Early models had the power switch on the back panel, while later models 
>>>>> had it behind the front panel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It sounds like you might have a later model M. It would be helpful to see 
>>>>> a closeup of the read card cage (with readable labels), as well as the 
>>>>> front card cage.  The front card cage is accessed by unlocking the panel 
>>>>> and removing the cover on the right side over the card cage.  That's 
>>>>> where the memory boards live.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It?s a 9-slot variant that says HP-1000 M-Series on the front panel.  
>>>>>> From what I can tell the front panel appears to be the same as any of 
>>>>>> the other HP-1000 series.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What I?m trying to figure out is what the actual CPU configuration is 
>>>>>> without disassembly (which I still need to figure out) so that I can 
>>>>>> actually examine the boards.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TTFN - Guy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Norman Jaffe via cctalk 
>>>>>>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can you provide a picture of the front panel?
>>>>>>> 2113 implies a 21MX-E; the nine-slot version is a 2109 while the 
>>>>>>> fourteen-slot would be a 2113.
>>>>>>> This might help - https://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=109 .
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>>>>>>> To: "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:52:18 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Identification of an HP minicomputer
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have sitting in my pile of stuff an HP minicomputer that I?m trying 
>>>>>>> to identify (at least in terms of exactly what it is and what sort of 
>>>>>>> configuration it might have).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As far as I can tell, it?s an HP-1000 M-Series minicomputer (that 
>>>>>>> should hopefully get us *some* details). The ?asset tag? lists the part 
>>>>>>> number as 2113023-108. Looking at the back there?s space for 9 I/O 
>>>>>>> cards (5 are occupied).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So my question is which of the several CPUs could this be and how do I 
>>>>>>> tell (for example) what the configuration is (e.g. how much memory, 
>>>>>>> etc).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, I have looked on bitsavers, but short of disassembling the box to 
>>>>>>> look at the (at least) 2 boards that are below the I/O slots, I can?t 
>>>>>>> tell what?s there and I?d like to see if there?s a way to determine 
>>>>>>> what this is without resorting to disassembly.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TTFN - Guy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike Loewen                               mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
>>>>> Old Technology                            http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike Loewen                         mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
>>> Old Technology                              http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
>> 
>> 
> 
> Mike Loewen                           mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
> Old Technology                                http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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