Hi Rick & all, I agree with you and I think IPExpert is better organized than INE. I used IPexpert to prepare R/S and passed in my first attempt. For SP, I am using both the materials. They are both very good. However, the IPExpert material vol 1 covers every technology and has better LABs than VOL1 of INE which only covers Multicast and MPLS.
The other technology topics are not covered in VOL1 INE material. I have not looked at the VOL2 of INE , which I heard covers most of the topics. Anyway, I would suggest we stop this discussion as it leads no where. Suresh On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Rick Mur <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm also quite surprised. I actually used both for preparing for my SP lab > and I found the IPexpert labs WAY harder than the INE ones. The 'true' > difference between failing and passing perhaps! > > > -- > > > Regards, > > Rick Mur > CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider) > Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc. > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Wayne Lawson <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yeah - definitely strange. Bryan Bartik - one of our Support Engineers / >> Developers also passed (yesterday) on his first attempt (see our blog). >> >> Ali - I'd like to chat with you directly about this, but I don't see you >> in our customer database...what, and when did you purchase (from us SP >> related)?.... >> >> Regards, >> >> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244 >> Founder & President - IPexpert >> Mailto: <[email protected]>[email protected] >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 101 >> Live Assistance, Please visit: <http://www.ipexpert.com/chat> >> www.ipexpert.com/chat >> eFax: +1.810.454.0130 >> >> ::Message sent from iPhone:: >> >> IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA >> (R&S, Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & >> Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the >> United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online >> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at >> www.ipexpert.com. >> >> On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Neil Apolzan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Our instructor (now triple CCIE, Tyson Scott) just used the Vol. 1+2 >> workbooks to successfully pass the lab, on the first attempt, in just a >> matter of a few months (all while teaching / developing CCIE Security v3 >> courses, developing new R&S + Security products and being one of lead >> support instructors on the R&S and Security Online Study Lists - just to >> mention a few things.) >> >> Something's not quite adding up here. ;) >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Apolzan >> Training Advisor, IPexpert >> Mailto: <[email protected]>[email protected] >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 318 >> Live Assistance, Please visit: <http://www.ipexpert.com/chat> >> www.ipexpert.com/chat >> eFax: +1.810.454.0130 >> >> IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA >> (R&S, Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & >> Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the >> United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online >> communities at <http://www.ipexpert.com/communities> >> www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at >> <http://www.ipexpert.com>www.ipexpert.com >> >> >> On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:14 PM, ali pourvahabi < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I have gone through both of them , and i found INE better than IPEXPERT , >> before making any decision compare INE COD with Audio file from IPEXPERT . I >> bought both and in my opinion IPEXPERT is not good material for SP and it >> was mistake for me. >> >> Ali >> >> 2009/11/10 ali pourvahabi < <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> >>> Hi Andre , >>> >>> The IPEXPERT material won't be enough i recommend INE material as well , >>> >>> >>> Ali >>> >>> 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes < >>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> >>> >>>> Yep... It's almost impossible to get a seat in SP (Sao Paulo). It >>>> appears there only ONE seat offer per month for Service Provider here, can >>>> u >>>> believe? But I had luck once I am sure I will again... the secret is that >>>> the schedule system covers just the next 240 days on the calendar so it >>>> slides every day at 0am PST. If the new date is a business day and you are >>>> the first to search at 0:00:01am you have a little chance to get your seat >>>> for 8 months later... or just watch the website every day to see if any >>>> dropped seat appears. In Sao Paulo is even worst, the proctor told me that >>>> exams are given only on the first week of each month for 3 times (Mon, Wed, >>>> Fri) where THE SP seat is on Fridays... you got to be kidding me!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> As for the management questions they were 2 simple questions, but one of >>>> them was a little bit more elaborated and I couldn’t complete it as I >>>> decided to skip it and get back to my main L2 issue. At that time I >>>> already >>>> knew that I wouldn't make it. I had to reload the routers twice. I can >>>> recall exactly the exact problem now, but I believe was something with TE >>>> and redistribution… >>>> >>>> Andre >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Matt Hill < >>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> All SP locations are full to at least April. You want SP in SP*? >>>>> forget it! >>>>> >>>>> *Sao Paulo >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 10/11/2009, at 8:45, Rick Mur < <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lala, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry I thought these locations were always quite open in terms of SP >>>>> seats, that was the case when I was scheduling for it. >>>>> IT seems they filled up completely up completely up to April. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Rick Mur >>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider) >>>>> Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc. >>>>> URL: <http://www.ipexpert.com/> >>>>> <http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.IPexpert.com> >>>>> http://www.IPexpert.com >>>>> >>>>> On 9 nov 2009, at 22:38, Lala Lander wrote: >>>>> >>>>> mmm Rick, where are you seeing those seats? I dont see any. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Rick Mur < >>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Andre, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for sharing your experience! Indeed the L2 stuff in the lab >>>>>> can be tricky especially with PPPoE. >>>>>> >>>>>> Keep up the good work and don't hesitate to ask any questions on this >>>>>> list, there's a lot of SP knowledge available >>>>>> here :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> You could try and do the lab in San Jose or RTP as there are a lot of >>>>>> seats open in those locations. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick Mur >>>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S, Service provider) >>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer -- IPexpert, Inc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9 nov 2009, at 20:45, Lala Lander < >>>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> gotcha and agreed :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes < >>>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I dont want to violate nda rules, but it's well know that basic >>>>>>> L2 is preconfigured but you may encounter some troubleshooting >>>>>>> or some portions with specific requirements. My problem was that I >>>>>>> wasn’t >>>>>>> full prepared for what they asked and some research on documentation >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> be needed. Definitively the real lab is not the best time to try >>>>>>> something >>>>>>> you never did before... >>>>>>> A >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/11/9 Lala Lander < <[email protected]> >>>>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you say L2 basics, you meant to say you could not bring your >>>>>>>> frame-relay or ethernet or PPP. I thought frame-relay is preconfigured >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> PPP in my opinion you can always skip and come back later. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes < >>>>>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello guys >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I’ve failed in my first attempt on the CCIE Service >>>>>>>>> Provider exam. Eventhough I had I put all efforts and dedication on >>>>>>>>> it, I >>>>>>>>> wasn’t really expecting to pass on the first attempt. It was just 2 >>>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>>> of study since I passed the written. I decided to go to the lab with >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> short time pretty aware that this could happen. It’s very hard to get >>>>>>>>> a seat >>>>>>>>> in Sao Paulo/Brazil for SP and I couldn’t miss the chance to get lab >>>>>>>>> experience ( or even pass ) when I found one seat available on Cisco >>>>>>>>> Website, probably from somebody dropped due to payment. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am using IPExpert as the main guide for my preparation and I can >>>>>>>>> tell you know that they are really good and cover in different pieces >>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>> topics we you need to pass de exam. I’m also using INE and practicing >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>> scenarios proposed by Antonio Soares on his website. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I can tell you about my experience is that I failed on the >>>>>>>>> basics: L2 (legacy), basic security and management. As many questions >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> interdependent on the evaluation, I lost points everywhere eventhough >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> could complete most of the other tasks. I was pretty much well >>>>>>>>> prepared for >>>>>>>>> worst and didn’t pay attention to basic stuff. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now I will take some weeks off and then get back to IPE workbook 1 >>>>>>>>> to focus on my weak areas and also some book reading, probably MPLS >>>>>>>>> Fundamentals. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At the end, I think the result was fair. If could complete those >>>>>>>>> basic tasks, I am not a Cisco Expert, YET! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CYA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Andre Vasquez >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>>>>>>> please visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com> >>>>>>>>> www.ipexpert.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>>>> please visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> >>>>>> <http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com> >>>>>> www.ipexpert.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>>> please visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> >>>>> <http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com> >>>>> www.ipexpert.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>>> please visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <http://www.ipexpert.com> >>>>> www.ipexpert.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>> please visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <http://www.ipexpert.com> >>>> www.ipexpert.com >>>> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit <http://www.ipexpert.com> <http://www.ipexpert.com>www.ipexpert.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit <http://www.ipexpert.com>www.ipexpert.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > >
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