In my opinion both INE and IPE are great. IPE, as Rick said, is much more
elaborated and acctually more complicated than the real lab. Besides the
workbooks I have been having a great support from all IPE team (proctor
labs). That´s why I will still using and recommending it. But I will also
use any other´s vendor material as complement.

I heard something about IPexpert team planning some bootcamp in Sao
Paulo/BR. Is that true? There is no specific CCIE SP courses and bootcamp
here...

André


On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Neil Apolzan <[email protected]> wrote:

>  INE, who’s that? ;) Instead of going to INE, invest in the IPexpert 5-Day
> Instructor Led Boot Camp. It will be well worth the investment, you’re
> guaranteed a phenomenal learning experience and you’ll receive instruction
> from triple CCIE Tyson Scott (recently passed SP on the first attempt only
> about a month ago.) ;)
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Neil Apolzan
>
> Training Advisor, IPexpert
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>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *ali pourvahabi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:01 PM
>
> *To:* André Luiz Bernardes
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] Failed on 1st attempt
>
>
>
> Hi Andre ,
>
>
>
> The IPEXPERT material won't be enough i recommend INE material as well ,
>
>
>
>
>
> Ali
>
> 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes <[email protected]>
>
> Yep... It's almost impossible to get a seat in SP (Sao Paulo). It appears
> there only ONE seat offer per month for Service Provider here, can u
> believe? But I had luck once I am sure I will again...  the secret is that
> the schedule system covers just the next 240 days on the calendar so it
> slides every day at 0am PST. If the new date is a business day and you are
> the first to search at 0:00:01am you have a little chance to get your seat
> for 8 months later...  or just watch the website every day to see if any
> dropped seat appears. In Sao Paulo is even worst, the proctor told me that
> exams are given only on the first week of each month for 3 times (Mon, Wed,
> Fri) where THE SP seat is on Fridays... you got to be kidding me!!!
>
>
>
> Bill
> As for the management questions they were 2 simple questions, but one of
> them was a little bit more elaborated and I couldn’t complete it as I
> decided to  skip it and get back to my main L2 issue. At that time I already
> knew that I wouldn't make it.  I had to reload the routers twice. I can
> recall exactly the exact problem now, but I believe was something with TE
> and redistribution…
>
> Andre
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Matt Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> All SP locations are full to at least April. You want SP in SP*? forget it!
>
>
>
> *Sao Paulo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 10/11/2009, at 8:45, Rick Mur <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Lala,
>
>
>
> Sorry I thought these locations were always quite open in terms of SP
> seats, that was the case when I was scheduling for it.
>
> IT seems they filled up completely up completely up to April.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Rick Mur
> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc.
> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>
>
>
> On 9 nov 2009, at 22:38, Lala Lander wrote:
>
>
>
> mmm Rick, where are you seeing those seats? I dont see any.
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Rick Mur <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Andre,
>
>
>
> Thank you for sharing your experience! Indeed the L2 stuff in the lab can
> be tricky especially with PPPoE.
>
>
>
> Keep up the good work and don't hesitate to ask any questions on this list,
> there's a lot of SP knowledge available
>
>  here :-)
>
>
>
> You could try and do the lab in San Jose or RTP as there are a lot of seats
> open in those locations.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Rick Mur
>
> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S, Service provider)
>
> Sr. Support Engineer -- IPexpert, Inc.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 9 nov 2009, at 20:45, Lala Lander <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  gotcha and agreed :-)
>
> 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes <[email protected]>
>
> Well, I dont want to violate nda rules, but it's well know that basic L2 is
> preconfigured but you may encounter some troubleshooting or some portions
> with specific requirements. My problem was that I wasn’t full prepared for
> what they asked and some research on documentation would be needed.
> Definitively the real lab is not the best time to try something you never
> did before...
>
> A
>
> 2009/11/9 Lala Lander <[email protected]>
>
>
>
> When you say L2 basics, you meant to say you could not bring your
> frame-relay or ethernet or PPP. I thought frame-relay is preconfigured and
> PPP in my opinion you can always skip and come back later.
>
> 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes <[email protected]>
>
> Hello guys
>
>
>
> Unfortunately I’ve failed in my first attempt on the CCIE Service Provider
> exam. Eventhough I had I put all efforts and dedication on it, I wasn’t
> really expecting to pass on the first attempt. It was just 2 months of study
> since I passed the written. I decided to go to the lab with this short time
> pretty aware that this could happen. It’s very hard to get a seat in Sao
> Paulo/Brazil for SP and I couldn’t miss the chance to get lab experience (
> or even pass ) when I found one seat available on Cisco Website, probably
> from somebody dropped due to payment.
>
>
>
> I am using IPExpert as the main guide for my preparation and I can tell you
> know that they are really good and cover in different pieces every topics we
> you need to pass de exam. I’m also using INE and practicing some scenarios
> proposed by Antonio Soares on his website.
>
>
>
> What I can tell you about my experience is that I failed on the basics: L2
> (legacy), basic security and management. As many questions are
> interdependent on the evaluation, I lost points everywhere eventhough I
> could complete most of the other tasks. I was pretty much well prepared for
> worst and didn’t pay attention to basic stuff.
>
>
>
> Now I will take some weeks off and then get back to IPE workbook 1 to focus
> on my weak areas and also some book reading, probably MPLS Fundamentals.
>
>
>
> At the end, I think the result was fair. If could complete those basic
> tasks, I am not a Cisco Expert, YET!
>
>
>
> CYA
>
>
>
> Andre Vasquez
>
>
>
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