I'm also quite surprised. I actually used both for preparing for my SP lab and I found the IPexpert labs WAY harder than the INE ones. The 'true' difference between failing and passing perhaps!
-- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider) Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Wayne Lawson <[email protected]>wrote: > Yeah - definitely strange. Bryan Bartik - one of our Support Engineers / > Developers also passed (yesterday) on his first attempt (see our blog). > > Ali - I'd like to chat with you directly about this, but I don't see you in > our customer database...what, and when did you purchase (from us SP > related)?.... > > Regards, > > Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244 > Founder & President - IPexpert > Mailto: <[email protected]>[email protected] > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 101 > Live Assistance, Please visit: <http://www.ipexpert.com/chat> > www.ipexpert.com/chat > eFax: +1.810.454.0130 > > ::Message sent from iPhone:: > > IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (R&S, > Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service > Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United > States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online communities at > www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com. > > On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Neil Apolzan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Our instructor (now triple CCIE, Tyson Scott) just used the Vol. 1+2 > workbooks to successfully pass the lab, on the first attempt, in just a > matter of a few months (all while teaching / developing CCIE Security v3 > courses, developing new R&S + Security products and being one of lead > support instructors on the R&S and Security Online Study Lists - just to > mention a few things.) > > Something's not quite adding up here. ;) > > Regards, > > Neil Apolzan > Training Advisor, IPexpert > Mailto: <[email protected]>[email protected] > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 318 > Live Assistance, Please visit: <http://www.ipexpert.com/chat> > www.ipexpert.com/chat > eFax: +1.810.454.0130 > > IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (R&S, > Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service > Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United > States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online communities at > <http://www.ipexpert.com/communities>www.ipexpert.com/communities and our > public website at <http://www.ipexpert.com>www.ipexpert.com > > > On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:14 PM, ali pourvahabi < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > > I have gone through both of them , and i found INE better than IPEXPERT , > before making any decision compare INE COD with Audio file from IPEXPERT . I > bought both and in my opinion IPEXPERT is not good material for SP and it > was mistake for me. > > Ali > > 2009/11/10 ali pourvahabi < <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > [email protected]> > >> Hi Andre , >> >> The IPEXPERT material won't be enough i recommend INE material as well , >> >> >> Ali >> >> 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes < >> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> >>> Yep... It's almost impossible to get a seat in SP (Sao Paulo). It appears >>> there only ONE seat offer per month for Service Provider here, can u >>> believe? But I had luck once I am sure I will again... the secret is that >>> the schedule system covers just the next 240 days on the calendar so it >>> slides every day at 0am PST. If the new date is a business day and you are >>> the first to search at 0:00:01am you have a little chance to get your seat >>> for 8 months later... or just watch the website every day to see if any >>> dropped seat appears. In Sao Paulo is even worst, the proctor told me that >>> exams are given only on the first week of each month for 3 times (Mon, Wed, >>> Fri) where THE SP seat is on Fridays... you got to be kidding me!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> As for the management questions they were 2 simple questions, but one of >>> them was a little bit more elaborated and I couldn’t complete it as I >>> decided to skip it and get back to my main L2 issue. At that time I already >>> knew that I wouldn't make it. I had to reload the routers twice. I can >>> recall exactly the exact problem now, but I believe was something with TE >>> and redistribution… >>> >>> Andre >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Matt Hill < >>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> All SP locations are full to at least April. You want SP in SP*? >>>> forget it! >>>> >>>> *Sao Paulo >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 10/11/2009, at 8:45, Rick Mur < <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Lala, >>>> >>>> Sorry I thought these locations were always quite open in terms of SP >>>> seats, that was the case when I was scheduling for it. >>>> IT seems they filled up completely up completely up to April. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Rick Mur >>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider) >>>> Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc. >>>> URL: <http://www.ipexpert.com/> >>>> <http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.IPexpert.com> >>>> http://www.IPexpert.com >>>> >>>> On 9 nov 2009, at 22:38, Lala Lander wrote: >>>> >>>> mmm Rick, where are you seeing those seats? I dont see any. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Rick Mur < >>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Andre, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for sharing your experience! Indeed the L2 stuff in the lab >>>>> can be tricky especially with PPPoE. >>>>> >>>>> Keep up the good work and don't hesitate to ask any questions on this >>>>> list, there's a lot of SP knowledge available >>>>> here :-) >>>>> >>>>> You could try and do the lab in San Jose or RTP as there are a lot of >>>>> seats open in those locations. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Rick Mur >>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S, Service provider) >>>>> Sr. Support Engineer -- IPexpert, Inc. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 9 nov 2009, at 20:45, Lala Lander < >>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> gotcha and agreed :-) >>>>> >>>>> 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes < >>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> Well, I dont want to violate nda rules, but it's well know that basic >>>>>> L2 is preconfigured but you may encounter some troubleshooting >>>>>> or some portions with specific requirements. My problem was that I wasn’t >>>>>> full prepared for what they asked and some research on documentation >>>>>> would >>>>>> be needed. Definitively the real lab is not the best time to try >>>>>> something >>>>>> you never did before... >>>>>> A >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/11/9 Lala Lander < <[email protected]> >>>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> When you say L2 basics, you meant to say you could not bring your >>>>>>> frame-relay or ethernet or PPP. I thought frame-relay is preconfigured >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> PPP in my opinion you can always skip and come back later. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes < >>>>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello guys >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unfortunately I’ve failed in my first attempt on the CCIE Service >>>>>>>> Provider exam. Eventhough I had I put all efforts and dedication on >>>>>>>> it, I >>>>>>>> wasn’t really expecting to pass on the first attempt. It was just 2 >>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>> of study since I passed the written. I decided to go to the lab with >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> short time pretty aware that this could happen. It’s very hard to get >>>>>>>> a seat >>>>>>>> in Sao Paulo/Brazil for SP and I couldn’t miss the chance to get lab >>>>>>>> experience ( or even pass ) when I found one seat available on Cisco >>>>>>>> Website, probably from somebody dropped due to payment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am using IPExpert as the main guide for my preparation and I can >>>>>>>> tell you know that they are really good and cover in different pieces >>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>> topics we you need to pass de exam. I’m also using INE and practicing >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> scenarios proposed by Antonio Soares on his website. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I can tell you about my experience is that I failed on the >>>>>>>> basics: L2 (legacy), basic security and management. As many questions >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> interdependent on the evaluation, I lost points everywhere eventhough I >>>>>>>> could complete most of the other tasks. I was pretty much well >>>>>>>> prepared for >>>>>>>> worst and didn’t pay attention to basic stuff. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I will take some weeks off and then get back to IPE workbook 1 >>>>>>>> to focus on my weak areas and also some book reading, probably MPLS >>>>>>>> Fundamentals. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At the end, I think the result was fair. If could complete those >>>>>>>> basic tasks, I am not a Cisco Expert, YET! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CYA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andre Vasquez >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>>>>>> please visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> >>>>>>>> <http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com> >>>>>>>> www.ipexpert.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>>> please visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> >>>>> <http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com> >>>>> www.ipexpert.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>> please visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> >>>> <http://www.ipexpert.com/><http://www.ipexpert.com> >>>> www.ipexpert.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>> please visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <http://www.ipexpert.com> >>>> www.ipexpert.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >>> visit <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <http://www.ipexpert.com> >>> www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit <http://www.ipexpert.com> <http://www.ipexpert.com>www.ipexpert.com > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit <http://www.ipexpert.com>www.ipexpert.com > > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > >
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