>From what Ive heard, INE does have reputable training products for the SP track. However, many of the successful SP clients that Ive spoken with have mentioned that our offerings (Workbooks, Proctor Labs and possibly a Boot Camp) are more than sufficient and no other vendors products were needed to pass the lab.
Wed love to come down to San Paulo! :) We just need to round up enough CCIE candidates (usually 8-10) to warrant sending an instructor down for a week. If you can help make this happen Andre and you know of a good training facility Ill make sure you get a free seat in the class! Otherwise, if you must travel here (Columbus, OH or San Jose, CA) to attend our course, I can help you out on the registration cost, to help offset your travel expenditures. Regards, Neil Apolzan Training Advisor, IPexpert Mailto: [email protected] Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 318 Live Assistance, Please visit: <http://www.ipexpert.com/chat> www.ipexpert.com/chat eFax: +1.810.454.0130 IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (R&S, Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online communities at <http://www.ipexpert.com/communities> www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at <http://www.ipexpert.com> www.ipexpert.com From: André Luiz Bernardes [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:00 PM To: Neil Apolzan Cc: ali pourvahabi; [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] Failed on 1st attempt In my opinion both INE and IPE are great. IPE, as Rick said, is much more elaborated and acctually more complicated than the real lab. Besides the workbooks I have been having a great support from all IPE team (proctor labs). That´s why I will still using and recommending it. But I will also use any other´s vendor material as complement. I heard something about IPexpert team planning some bootcamp in Sao Paulo/BR. Is that true? There is no specific CCIE SP courses and bootcamp here... André On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Neil Apolzan <[email protected]> wrote: INE, whos that? ;) Instead of going to INE, invest in the IPexpert 5-Day Instructor Led Boot Camp. It will be well worth the investment, youre guaranteed a phenomenal learning experience and youll receive instruction from triple CCIE Tyson Scott (recently passed SP on the first attempt only about a month ago.) ;) Regards, Neil Apolzan Training Advisor, IPexpert Mailto: [email protected] Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 318 Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat eFax: +1.810.454.0130 IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA (R&S, Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ali pourvahabi Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:01 PM To: André Luiz Bernardes Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] Failed on 1st attempt Hi Andre , The IPEXPERT material won't be enough i recommend INE material as well , Ali 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes <[email protected]> Yep... It's almost impossible to get a seat in SP (Sao Paulo). It appears there only ONE seat offer per month for Service Provider here, can u believe? But I had luck once I am sure I will again... the secret is that the schedule system covers just the next 240 days on the calendar so it slides every day at 0am PST. If the new date is a business day and you are the first to search at 0:00:01am you have a little chance to get your seat for 8 months later... or just watch the website every day to see if any dropped seat appears. In Sao Paulo is even worst, the proctor told me that exams are given only on the first week of each month for 3 times (Mon, Wed, Fri) where THE SP seat is on Fridays... you got to be kidding me!!! Bill As for the management questions they were 2 simple questions, but one of them was a little bit more elaborated and I couldnt complete it as I decided to skip it and get back to my main L2 issue. At that time I already knew that I wouldn't make it. I had to reload the routers twice. I can recall exactly the exact problem now, but I believe was something with TE and redistribution Andre On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Matt Hill <[email protected]> wrote: All SP locations are full to at least April. You want SP in SP*? forget it! *Sao Paulo Sent from my iPhone On 10/11/2009, at 8:45, Rick Mur <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Lala, Sorry I thought these locations were always quite open in terms of SP seats, that was the case when I was scheduling for it. IT seems they filled up completely up completely up to April. -- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider) Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/> On 9 nov 2009, at 22:38, Lala Lander wrote: mmm Rick, where are you seeing those seats? I dont see any. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Rick Mur <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Andre, Thank you for sharing your experience! Indeed the L2 stuff in the lab can be tricky especially with PPPoE. Keep up the good work and don't hesitate to ask any questions on this list, there's a lot of SP knowledge available here :-) You could try and do the lab in San Jose or RTP as there are a lot of seats open in those locations. -- Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (R&S, Service provider) Sr. Support Engineer -- IPexpert, Inc. Sent from my iPhone On 9 nov 2009, at 20:45, Lala Lander <[email protected]> wrote: gotcha and agreed :-) 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes <[email protected]> Well, I dont want to violate nda rules, but it's well know that basic L2 is preconfigured but you may encounter some troubleshooting or some portions with specific requirements. My problem was that I wasnt full prepared for what they asked and some research on documentation would be needed. Definitively the real lab is not the best time to try something you never did before... A 2009/11/9 Lala Lander <[email protected]> When you say L2 basics, you meant to say you could not bring your frame-relay or ethernet or PPP. I thought frame-relay is preconfigured and PPP in my opinion you can always skip and come back later. 2009/11/9 André Luiz Bernardes <[email protected]> Hello guys Unfortunately Ive failed in my first attempt on the CCIE Service Provider exam. Eventhough I had I put all efforts and dedication on it, I wasnt really expecting to pass on the first attempt. It was just 2 months of study since I passed the written. I decided to go to the lab with this short time pretty aware that this could happen. Its very hard to get a seat in Sao Paulo/Brazil for SP and I couldnt miss the chance to get lab experience ( or even pass ) when I found one seat available on Cisco Website, probably from somebody dropped due to payment. I am using IPExpert as the main guide for my preparation and I can tell you know that they are really good and cover in different pieces every topics we you need to pass de exam. Im also using INE and practicing some scenarios proposed by Antonio Soares on his website. What I can tell you about my experience is that I failed on the basics: L2 (legacy), basic security and management. As many questions are interdependent on the evaluation, I lost points everywhere eventhough I could complete most of the other tasks. I was pretty much well prepared for worst and didnt pay attention to basic stuff. Now I will take some weeks off and then get back to IPE workbook 1 to focus on my weak areas and also some book reading, probably MPLS Fundamentals. At the end, I think the result was fair. If could complete those basic tasks, I am not a Cisco Expert, YET! 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