Bob,

it is very impressive what you could do and I do applaud you for building your 
own lab for $2500, but this is not what I and I believe others are looking for. 
What we are looking for is a better customer service. There seems to be quite a 
number of people, even senior CCIEs who are not happy with 8hour slots, who 
would welcome 4hour slots, and so I do not see a single reason why IPX would 
not help with this.

Marian

Odoslané z iPadu / Sent from iPad

Dňa 31.5.2012, o 19:28, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> napísal:

> Two comments on your experience, Rob:
> 
> 1) I believe Marko has stated before at you can contact ProctorLabs
> support to start a session after the designated start time, but then
> you'll get less than your 8 hours (slot still ends at the same time).
> 
> 2) Regarding voucher expiration, I was told when I purchased the BLS
> that vouchers could be extended by the sales team. Indeed, most of
> mine were set to expire last month and I contacted a sales rep and
> asked for an extension. They were extended for another year.
> 
> However, I also find the PL time blocks to be inconvenient (and hard
> to schedule when I want them, they always seem all booked), so I built
> a home lab using 3560/3550 switches, a Dynamips/IOU server, and 3
> 1841s to act as R1, R7, and R8 (as they don't need frame connectivity
> to the other devices). This hybrid lab gives me just about everything
> I need and with smart eBay shopping and some ingenuity I put the whole
> thing together for about US$2500 (including a 3750 breakout switch, a
> small server, rack, power control, console server, etc).
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On May 31, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Rob Pool <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I don't remember how many sessions came with my End-to-End solution, but I 
>> ended up letting a significant amount of them expire. It was very 
>> frustrating to have spent a lot of money and not get that value. I could 
>> have even dealt with the 8 hour window if they would have at least allowed 
>> you to schedule a rack after the window started if there was one available.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>
>> To: Rob Pool <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; 
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability
>> 
>> 
>> LOL.
>> I have VRACK time, but I don't want to burn 8 hour slots, either! My 
>> suggestion- cut the cost in half or make 4 hour sessions available!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
>> Sent from iJay
>> 
>> On May 31, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Rob Pool <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Haha, It seems like I'm good at getting myself in trouble. :) Hopefully 
>> Marco won't put the smack down on me too badly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I really don't believe that I said anything that wasn't true. I'm sure that 
>>> most everyone at IPX knows that their customers want a shorter time slot 
>>> and have for quite some time. The last time this email thread came up I 
>>> believe Marco made mention of some potential technical issues with going to 
>>> 4 hour time slots. The reality is IPX will require a big enough business 
>>> driver to make it worth their effort to overcome the technical issues. 
>>> Business Driver=Money.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>
>>> To: Rob Pool <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; 
>>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability
>>> 
>>> Uh oh. I think I hear Marco coming. You are sooooo in trouble! ;)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
>>> Sent from iJay
>>> 
>>> On May 31, 2012, at 6:22 AM, Rob Pool <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nothing against IPX, because they've provided invaluable training 
>>>> material. However, they've been talking about 4 hour time slots at least a 
>>>> couple years and it hasn't happened yet. I went out and bought my own rack 
>>>> of gear to the tune of over $11k. Fortunately for those that haven't done 
>>>> that yet, the prices have dropped significantly and you could probably do 
>>>> it for less than half of that.  My suggestion is do the same if you want 
>>>> the freedom and flexibility to train when you have time. Also, the best 
>>>> way to institute change is with your money going somewhere else. A vendor 
>>>> can ignore requests when you're still spending money, but they can't if
>> revenues are dropping.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On May 31, 2012, at 4:43 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello IP Experts,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A few weeks if not months ago I asked the same already, whether there 
>>>>> will be a chance for booking the vracks for 4hour slots instead of 
>>>>> current 8hours. The reasoning why I provided that time and looked like 
>>>>> there are much more people from this community who are interested in the 
>>>>> same than anyone including me could expect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The response from the IPX instructor that time was that IPX is thinking 
>>>>> of implementing 4hour slots but had not definite plan for that. Let me 
>>>>> therefore ask you again the same, will you please make the 4hour vrack 
>>>>> time slots available for those who are based in Europe, those who just 
>>>>> need to spend labbing time on individual technologies
>> and are not interested yet in practicing the mock labs where 8hour slots are 
>> understandable?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marian Franc
>>>>> 
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