I meant to respond to this before... --- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Julia Thompson wrote: > > >Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > > > How many here who consider themselves religious, > > > spiritual, or otherwise somehow connected to the > > > Divine have had that feeling of "universal > > > connectedness" or "sacred presence" (drug > >experiences disqualified in my book) ...
[David] But traditional methods such as fasting, sleep > deprivation, frenetic dancing, sensory deprivation, > self-flagellation, etc are all O.K.? Unfair! [Julia] If there is a "spirituality gene" and some >people are lacking, if they > > feel deprived, might they be more inclined toward > drug experiences to achieve such feelings? Hmm, if it was a _set_ of spirituality genes, then bearers of all active genes will have "numinous moments" (thanks for reminding me of that word!) without any 'enhancements.' Those missing one or more of the active genes will have to fast, dance or stay awake to experience "universal oneness." Not having exerienced these 'assisted moments,' I don't know if they engender the same feelings/states-of-mind, but perhaps I am being unfair in excluding them, and drug-induced ones. I wonder if having a 'null set' of these spirituality genes would mean that the person won't have the 'spiritual connectednees' even with maximal enhancement? Debbi who will pass on the self-flagellation, thanks... :P __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
