--- Chad Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I have a theory (which of course would not meet
> Erik's stringent standard
> for what is required to formulate a theory) that
> genetics plays a strong
> role in experiencing "spirituality".  <sniplet>
> All religions have this one thing in common. All
> feelings of spirituality has a common element of
> "feeling God" or "knowing
> their place in the Universe"  <sniplet>
> Most people feel this at one time, some more
> than others. I can't
> help but to think that some people (like myself)
> lack the necessary
> component to "feel God" in the same degree and
> manner. Some people are
> raised religious, but never gain conviction. Others
> never have exposure to
> religion, yet do claim to have "felt God" and
> profess a belief and love of God.

If genetics does play a role (intriguing yet
disturbing thought, and dovetails with the notion of
'a brain hard-wired for spirituality'), what is the
evolutionary survival value to such an experience? 
Does it help bind a small family group/tribe together
in an improved-reproductive-success way, by promoting
a sense of "connectedness"?  Does it help the
individual sacrifice ers life "for the good of the
tribe" by giving a sense of continuance despite an
obviously fatal scenario?
 
> Why is this? Taking the religious position, one
> could say that they have not
> "let God in". I believe that for some people
> (perhaps that 10% of us who are
> 'godless')they (I) lack something which provides
> this unshaken belief in so many people. 
> I would assert that most people who do believe in
> God, know that it is based
> upon faith, but do have personal validation, despite
> its illogicalness. <sniplet> Being an
> objectivist, I have been taught to scoff at the
> idea, with the clear and
> simple argument - "Where's the Beef!". I struggled
> with this for many, many years. WHY DO THEY BELIEVE!


Asking the question from a more tolerant religious
perspective, if Faith is a Gift or Grace bestowed by
God for the 'poor sinner' to be capable of belief,
then how can an individual be blamed for lack of
Faith?  This is a question I, a believer who has felt
that "oneness with the Universe," have wrestled with,
as it makes Belief impossible without Divine
Intervention...and what sin have those who *cannot*
feel Faith have committed to merit such isolation from
God?  How is that at all fair or merciful?  It isn't,
of course - in fact, it fits one non-literalist
definitions of hell.
 
> I personally would like proof, even if it was a
> personal conviction. Life
> may have been easier for me as a strong church goer,
> having faith in the
> Lord, doing the Lord's work. It did not come, but it
> did have an interesting
> effect - It freed me to be critical of God, his
> believers, and the dogma associated with God.
> 
> In talking to my parents about this, I came to
> realize that my freedom from
> "feeling God" places me in a position to be
> unbiased, and by this, I become
> an "intellectual guardian", able to question and
> challenge those who use
> religion for evil, as a weapon or as an implement of
> control. I pay a price
> in this, but it is _undenialable _that I contribute
> to the health of
> religion, by being its intellectual guardian - to
> question bad religion, bad
> beliefs, bad science, bad memes. Some say that
> religion will die. I'm
> suggesting that religion will mature and grow
> stronger as science
> progresses. Science has and will break down the
> toxic memes of religion, and
> will influence the culture of religion to enhance
> the survivialability of humanity.

A built-in check and balance?  A reasonable notion,
IMO.
 
> Call it the God or Spirituality Gene. Some of us
> don't understand what it
> means to believe in God. Evolution may have made us
> that way. But Gaia may a
> role for Atheists and Agnostics - it's to make
> religion better for the
> common man. I believe I was born to do the job. For
> all of you who believe,
> I think you owe me your thanks for defending the
> Lord's work.

Intriguing.  
Thank you.

Debbi

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