I disagree. There are times where having visual feedback is important.
Especially in a game that you’d want to put in schools.
There should never be a reason not to include visual elements. Access
for
all works both ways.
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From: Damien Sykes
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
Hi,
I don’t know why, but I like the fact that there’s no visual element.
I know
that a UI won’t make or break an audio game, but if there’s no UI
then you
have no choice but to go fully audio, and it really makes you think
about
what information needs to be conveyed. Almost like writing your own mini
and/or virtual screen reader, I guess. I must say, it was a fun
challenge
conceptualising and writing the audio form.
Cheers.
Damien.
From: Liam Erven
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 3:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
My biggest issues are lack of cross-platform, lack of environmental
effects,
and no way to do any sort of visual UI. That’s been an issue in Brain
Station unfortunately.
This is the problem when you get too comfortable with a scripting
language
like what was stated earlier. You don’t want to learn anything else.
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From: Damien Sykes
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 9:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
Hi Justin,
Indeed there are workarounds for these issues, but they are trivial
compared
to some of the bigger limitations. No 3d. No audio effects (filtering,
reverb etc). Not cross-platform. Can't really do anything with binary
data
unless you do all the calculations and conversions yourself. Tantrums
from
the garbage collector from time to time, which of course will reduce
performance. No real way of totally resetting the state of execution. Of
course you can reset all the variables, but the call stack will still
show a
call to reset...
The binary data and reset state aren't big showstoppers for me. Even the
cross platform isn't a big deal for me. I only ever use Windows for
my main
work, only ever use Linux for server admin through SSH and I don't see
myself getting a mac or phone anytime soon. But performance is
definitely
important in any product, and since I'm seeing more and more games
make use
of 3d audio and environmental effects, if I made another game I'd
want to be
able to use that.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Jones
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 3:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
One example of this sort of limitation is that BGT will only allow for
the reading of string data types from a file and nothing else. For
example, if you tell BGT to output a series of numbers into a text
file, it does this just fine, but if you try to read those numbers
back into a piece of code as integers, i.e. assigning the values to an
integer data type, BGT kicks back an error. Of course, there is a
work-around for this, but you have to use the string conversion
functions to convert a string data type to an integer data type. This
is an odd limitation, considering that the other programming languages
I've worked with in the past do not have this problem.
Another example of a limitation for BGT is data validation. If you
were to have the user input a number, there is no built-in
functionality for the input box function to perform data validation.
Again, there are work-arounds for this, but this ought to have been
something that is a part of the input box function.
I freely admit that I could be wrong concerning both of these examples.
On 12/18/17, Liam Erven <[email protected]> wrote:
It’s still a scripting language by definition. It’s good for games, but
not
much else. Also has several limitations which could be problematic.
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From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 6:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
Sam tupy’s elaborate survive the wild game was written entirely in bgt.
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From: Justin Jones
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 07:31
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
So long as you understand that BGT isn't a real programming language,
as it falls under scripting.
It's not a bad start though, as it can do plenty of cool things and
also serves as an intro to game programming, but it is only an intro.
On 12/17/17, Josh Kennedy <[email protected]> wrote:
Try the free bgt toolkit. Free blind game makers toolkit. Just google
search
bgt blind game makers toolkit.
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From: Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 20:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
Hi. maybe this is too technical. But do you know of any blind
developers
developing an accessible game framework and also an accessible
diagramming
software. If so, let me know. And also what’s the steps to develop an
accessible game say for windows.
Thanks.
Ps: also for like mobile, ios, android, x box, etc. thanks.
Ps: thinking of doing a diploma of interactive gaming from my
school,and
they have like a few subjects, 3d interactive gaming and designing 3d
graphics, etc. any one done these type of courses. Thanks.
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