The F-bomb is totally unnecessary. Such language is for teenagers who do not yet know how to communicate displeasure effectively. Please grow up. Personally, I am finding this discussion fascinating. I have often wondered why the "academics" at IBM would attack each other's presentations. It appears that part of the process of getting a PhD is learning to give and take intense attacks. This discussion is most enlightening. Marilyn On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Brian Fraser wrote:
> Please people. I urge you all to kindly fuck off. > > This is getting ridiculous. You are arguing about *tone*. Who gives a flying > fuck about tone if the post has substance? Are we fucking two? Are our egos > so fragile that we can't take the slightest of drubbings? So sensitive that > a word in caps can start this kind of shitstorm? > > (Apparently yes, but bear with me for a sec) > > Tone trolls, the lot of you. Yes, being nice is fine and all, and it's a > beginners list, so handholding should be the aim. And rudeness for rudeness > sake is utterly counterproductive. But I've been on this list for a while > now, and I can't recall a single instance of someone being rude when > replying a question. > > ...I'll be the first to admit that my memory is crap, but nevertheless, > until someone has provided links to substantiate these claims, please drop > the strawman. > > On the topic of tone, if an error is so egregious that it must be corrected, > strong language sometimes is needed to drive the point. Personally, I still > wouldn't condone that kind terseness... When directly answering the > beginner. But answers themselves? That's an entirely different domain. By > answering, you are claiming to be an expert; As an expert, you are opening > your answer and code to full scrutiny. > If you choose to be the kind of teacher who will always answer with a smile > and kindly nudge people into enlightenment, good for you. But spare the rest > of us of the lecture. You'll find that not wasting your time trying to > control how others communicate can be quite freeing. :) > > (A side note for Tiago and Lali and any other PhD student and/or scientist > out there: Just mention your situation and you are assured, to the best of > my ability, a hand-holding reply from me. Which may turn out to be > respectful silence as I'm not an expert, but well. I have a soft spot for > science, which can probably be "traced back to a math or science teacher" > (or blogger) that I appreciate :p) > > Brian. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
