I agree with you Ray, a nasty reply in a professional setting is easy to fend with a well thought answer. Having a thick skin, what does that mean? I don't run and throw myself on my bed and cry my eyes out when I get a harsh critique, but I won't lie and say that it sits well on me right away, after the bad feelings are sorted out, a harsh critique usually motivates me to be better. But it has to be a harsh critique with substance, and those are usually the ones that hurt the most, if you are convinced you have done a good job, or if you are not aware you made a mistake, an omission or something of the sorts. On the other hand, an empty nasty comment really doesn't help anyone, specially a beginner. But maybe I am a little inexperienced, I have never received a nasty review for any of my articles, but I did have a particularly nasty supervisor, and I did speak out and it did have consequences for me, far more serious than getting an article rejected.
L On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Raymond Wan <r....@aist.go.jp> wrote: > Hi Tiago, > > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 01:33, Tiago Hori <tiago.h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > No, no one needs to be rude, but some people are. Some people are rude > > because they are just stupid, but I like to believe that the vast > majority > > is rude because they don't know any better. I just think that getting a > > thick skin is not synonymous with accepting the rudeness. I try to very > hard > > (and sometimes fail) not to be rude when reviewing scientific articles > for > > publications for example, but I had to learn to get a thick skin, cause > more > > often than not the reviews I get are just nasty! :) > > > I'm not so sure about this last point. Yes there are nasty scientific > reviewers out there and the reason is that no one is taught to review > nicely. They've learned to be nasty either from someone they worked > with or, more than likely, from someone else who was nasty to them. > > Perhaps people in the scientific community and here on this list > should grow a thicker skin...but then one day, things degenerate and > get out of hand. And you end up potentially losing good scientists or > good Perl programmers...as Shawn quipped, to Python or Ruby. :-) Is > that good for Perl? Ok..."for Perl" is an exaggeration. How about, > "is it good for this mailing list"? > > As for the nasty scientific reviewers, IMHO, you should mention it to > the editor of the journal. No, you won't get your paper accepted -- > that shouldn't be the point. But as long as you have a good argument > and are *polite* and *constructive* in your response, the editor might > at least take a note of this nasty person and if many complaints come > in, s/he will no longer be asked to review. Again, IMHO, it is > perhaps better than feeling that being nasty is part of the peer > review process and then taking it out on someone else -- a vicious > cycle... > > Ray > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > http://learn.perl.org/ > > >