I agree with you Ray, a nasty reply in a professional setting is easy to
fend with a well thought answer.
 Having a thick skin, what does that mean? I don't run and throw myself on
my bed and cry my eyes out when I get a harsh critique, but I won't lie and
say that it sits well on me right away, after the bad feelings are sorted
out, a harsh critique usually motivates me to be better. But it has to be a
harsh critique with substance, and those are usually the ones that hurt the
most, if you are convinced you have done a good job, or if you are not aware
you made a mistake, an omission or something of the sorts. On the other
hand, an empty nasty comment really doesn't help anyone, specially a
beginner. But maybe I am a little inexperienced, I have never received a
nasty review for any of my articles, but I did have a particularly nasty
supervisor, and I did speak out and it did have consequences for me, far
more serious than getting an article rejected.

L

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Raymond Wan <r....@aist.go.jp> wrote:

> Hi Tiago,
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 01:33, Tiago Hori <tiago.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No, no one needs to be rude, but some people are. Some people are rude
> > because they are just stupid, but I like to believe that the vast
> majority
> > is rude because they don't know any better. I just think that getting a
> > thick skin is not synonymous with accepting the rudeness. I try to very
> hard
> > (and sometimes fail) not to be rude when reviewing scientific articles
> for
> > publications for example, but I had to learn to get a thick skin, cause
> more
> > often than not the reviews I get are just nasty! :)
>
>
> I'm not so sure about this last point.  Yes there are nasty scientific
> reviewers out there and the reason is that no one is taught to review
> nicely.  They've learned to be nasty either from someone they worked
> with or, more than likely, from someone else who was nasty to them.
>
> Perhaps people in the scientific community and here on this list
> should grow a thicker skin...but then one day, things degenerate and
> get out of hand.  And you end up potentially losing good scientists or
> good Perl programmers...as Shawn quipped, to Python or Ruby.  :-)  Is
> that good for Perl?  Ok..."for Perl" is an exaggeration.  How about,
> "is it good for this mailing list"?
>
> As for the nasty scientific reviewers, IMHO, you should mention it to
> the editor of the journal.  No, you won't get your paper accepted --
> that shouldn't be the point.  But as long as you have a good argument
> and are *polite* and *constructive* in your response, the editor might
> at least take a note of this nasty person and if many complaints come
> in, s/he will no longer be asked to review.  Again, IMHO, it is
> perhaps better than feeling that being nasty is part of the peer
> review process and then taking it out on someone else -- a vicious
> cycle...
>
> Ray
>
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