On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 04:00, Brian Fraser <frase...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please people. I urge you all to kindly fuck off. > > This is getting ridiculous. You are arguing about *tone*. Who gives a flying > fuck about tone if the post has substance? Are we fucking two? Are our egos > so fragile that we can't take the slightest of drubbings? So sensitive that > a word in caps can start this kind of shitstorm? > (Apparently yes, but bear with me for a sec)
Honestly, replying to the thread and swearing has the opposite effect -- one that you probably did not intend. :-) Yes, in the interest of "Let's stop this and get back to Perl", it might be a good idea to end this discussion. On the other hand, what we're talking about is usually several people versus one person or one or two well-respected people versus one person. And if we limit ourselves to what happens to us and stand idly by when it happens to someone else, then the "problem" doesn't get fixed. It continues, and one day ... it happens to you. Perhaps that is the point... > (A side note for Tiago and Lali and any other PhD student and/or scientist > out there: Just mention your situation and you are assured, to the best of > my ability, a hand-holding reply from me. Which may turn out to be That's great but why should they or any PhD student or student have to mention their situation in order to get nicer treatment? The list says "beginners"; shouldn't that imply that most people asking questions are probably in such a situation? (Granted, some may also be asking for answers to their homework......) In the latest message in this thread, David asks that we're 4 days into this thread and no solution has come up. Just to throw something out, what if the list was split to (say), "beginners-to-beginn...@perl.org" and "beginners-to-expe...@perl.org"? If there are moderators, then they would only have to "ensure" that only newbies (or people who can act like a newbie :-) ) are in the first list; they don't have to monitor each message... Maybe with even cross-posting between the two lists disallowed... I think message boards like stackoverflow ask people to vote on answers; sounds like voting on the level of "bullying" would then mean moderators are not needed... Just something to throw out in the interest of people who are probably tired of this thread... Like Marilyn, I find this discussion fascinating since this happens in many aspects of life. Here in Japan, I often see cases in the news of primary school children bullying other primary school children (with sometimes disastrous consequences). It's human nature from a very young age across many cultures...but it doesn't mean that nothing can be done about it...or maybe I'm wrong... Ray -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
