Arno Lehmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 23.08.2007 10:41,, Maria McKinley wrote::
> 
>>Arno Lehmann wrote:
>>
>>>>From what you said 
>>>>earlier I got the idea that if you have the job info, and know the 
>>>>volumes you need, you could get the job files back without too much 
>>>>trouble using bscan.
>>>
>>>No need to use bscan, you can restore the whole job.
>>>
>>
>>Thanks Arno, once again very helpful, and I think I am just about there. 
>>My problem is that the whole job is probably close to 300 GB, and I 
>>really just want a small chunk.
> 
> 
> Good, so not wanting to restore the whole job is understandable.
> 
> 
>>I should be able to do this if I use 
>>bscan first, I think, and it will essentially just re-create the old 
>>file list. It is a bit confusing, because the manual seems to assume 
>>that if you want to use bscan it is because you have screwed up your 
>>database, rather than just trying to restore really old files from 
>>backup where the file list doesn't exist in the database anymore. Which 
>>sort of makes me feel like I am going about this wrong...
> 
> 
> Good point. The manual might need an update then.
> 
> (Of course, the fact that I, too, would do this using bscan does not 
> necessarily mean there aren't better solutions... but as no one 
> intervenes, I'll assume no one knows :-)
> 
> The manual is written with a perfect setup and perfect and stable 
> operations in mind, where you never notice afterwards that a different 
> configuration would have been better later. At least that's what I 
> assume ;-)
> 
> Reality always interferes with long-term projects like data storage, 
> so I think it's more or less normal to find yourself in need of job 
> files after they were purged. Just don't believe that the manual 
> describes all the things that can possibly go wrong :-)
> 
> ...
> 
>>>>Btw, is there a reason 
>>>>that the volume names aren't included in the job info?
>>>
>>>I don't know what info you refer to, but you can use a query to find 
>>>the volumes for a specified job.
>>>
>>
>>I just meant that when you do "llist jobid=123", it doesn't list the 
>>volumes that are associated with that particular job. (Or at least in 
>>the older bacula version, I'm having difficulties getting my new bacula 
>>director restarted at the moment.) Just seemed odd to me it wasn't there.
> 
> 
> Now I see your point, thanks.
> 
> My answer is that this is an artifact of the way Bacula was developed, 
> i.e. a smooth user interface wasn't one of Kerns top priorities (until 
> recently).
> 
> the llist commands give rather simple but - sometimes - vital 
> information about objects. The queries handle the more complex stuff, 
> but for easier development and simple modification, they are invoked 
> differently.
> 
> At least that's what I assume and observe and Kern might explain 
> things completely different.
> 
> Arno
> 
> 
> 
>>thanks again,
>>maria
>>
>>
>>>Arno
>>>

Thank you Arno for being patient and explaining stuff. I now have a much 
better handle on what I want from my configuration, how to get it, and 
how to deal with stuff like this in the future. And maybe this thread 
will help others too.

cheers,
maria

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