"James Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > In the case of MSSQL, you can _never_ safely back up the database
> files.
> > (Unless, of course, you shut down the database server).
> 
> Hmmm... I thought that MSSQL spoke VSS and could give a coherent copy of
> the underlying files. But I was far from positive on that so I stand
> corrected.

I'm not an expert on MSSQL, but I'm not aware of any system that _ever_
allows you to back up the _files_ that make up the database safely.

That's not to say that it couldn't be developed, I'm just not aware of
it.

I do know that the last time I researched the documents, the deal was
that the only way to ensure a reliable backup was to use the MSSQL backup
tools.  Of course, this could be coded up by other vendors to make it
integrate with their system more transparently.

> > Like most SQL servers, MSSQL has a function do dump the database to a
> > text file.  You then back up the text file like any other.  This is
> the
> > correct way to do a database backup.
> 
> Actually, the really correct way is to have a backup 'agent' (MSSQL
> specific fd) that sets up a named pipe and then tells the sql server to
> back up to that named pipe. The agent reads the data from the pipe and
> sends it (one way or another) to the backup media.

I suppose.  It would end-run the problem of having enough disk space to
store the text file temporarily.

How do you backup your transaction logs?

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com


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