Hi Megan / RFC Editor team,

I can confirm that all desired updates appear as intended, but I don’t want to 
voice my approval to go ahead yet because there’s still one missing item: 
fixing the capitalization (which really applies to all three documents).

I am halfway (or perhaps a bit more) through your extremely long list of terms 
(and I’m very thankful for the work you’ve put into this: *creating* this list 
must have been a terrible task!). Some of them require careful manual 
inspection. I’m doing my very best to finish this as quickly as possible.

I make direct edits to the XML; once these are done I’ll be happy to give my 
go-ahead.
 
Cheers,
Michael


> On Dec 17, 2024, at 1:55 AM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Tommy - Thanks for sending along your approvals for each of the RFCs to be in 
> this cluster.  We have updated the AUTH48 status pages accordingly.
> 
> Just a reminder to everyone that the AUTH48 status pages for this cluster can 
> be viewed at https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/C508.
> 
> In looking through the AUTH48 status pages, it appears as though we’ve 
> received approvals at some point in the process from each author of RFC-to-be 
> 9622.  
> 
> Michael - can you please confirm that all desired updates appear as intended 
> in RFC-to-be 9622 and reconfirm your approval?  Once we receive this, we can 
> change the state to AUTH48-DONE while it awaits the other two docs in this 
> cluster.   For the other authors, we will assume your approvals stand unless 
> we hear otherwise.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/mf 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Tommy Pauly <tpa...@apple.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Thanks for all of these updates! I approve this latest version of RFC 9622.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Tommy
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for sending these along.  We have updated on our end to post 
>>> these versions and ensure that changes that may have been submitted 
>>> simultaneously are represented.  
>>> 
>>> We have sent replies to each RFC-to-be thread (9622 and 9623) and copied 
>>> them below for everyone’s convenience.
>>> 
>>> Please have a look and let us know if any further updates are necessary.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>> 
>>> RFC-to-be 9622:
>>> Michael,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for sending along the files.  We have synced our files with those 
>>> you submitted.
>>> 
>>> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after 
>>> publication.  
>>> 
>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.txt
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.pdf
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.xml
>>> 
>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes 
>>> only)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622-lastdiff.html (last to current 
>>> version only)
>>> 
>>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 
>>> status page prior to moving forward to publication.  
>>> 
>>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
>>> 
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9622
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>> 
>>> RFC-to-be 9623:
>>> Michael,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for sending along the files.  We have synced our files with those 
>>> you submitted (including making sure the updates that may have come in 
>>> while you were working appear as expected).
>>> 
>>> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after 
>>> publication.  
>>> 
>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.txt
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.pdf
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.xml
>>> 
>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes 
>>> only)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623-lastdiff.html (last to current 
>>> version only)
>>> 
>>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 
>>> status page prior to moving forward to publication.  
>>> 
>>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
>>> 
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9623
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2024, at 12:32 AM, Michael Welzl <mich...@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> This is about question 5.
>>>> 
>>>> I am attaching updated xml files for the RFC-to-be-9622 and 9623 that 
>>>> address this question.
>>>> I am also attaching the originals so you can make sure which version I 
>>>> worked with - a diff between these files and the very last version could 
>>>> indicate some very minor changes that you have applied after I made the 
>>>> change.
>>>> 
>>>> I downloaded the original XML files and made these updates on December 10, 
>>>> and gave the other authors until now to comment (two have, and said they 
>>>> were fine with these changes).
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Michael
>>>> 
>>>> = = = = =
>>>> 
>>>> Please feel free to ignore the following text - but in case of doubt, when 
>>>> looking at my version, perhaps these notes that I took when doing the 
>>>> changes are useful:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The name of the "final" property is "final", and using it marks a message 
>>>> as Final. I changed one "Final" to lowercase to account fo this. Also, 
>>>> both "final" and "Final" are <tt> marked in such sentences.
>>>> 
>>>> One occurrence of "Final" seemed odd, and rather than discussing whether 
>>>> it should be "final", "<tt>Final</t>" or "<tt>final</tt>", I renamed it to 
>>>> "last".
>>>> 
>>>> In one place, removed "()" after "Initiate", "Listen" and "Rendezvous".
>>>> Removed one "()" after "Set".
>>>> 
>>>> Another thing: strange - I think we corrected this before, but perhaps 
>>>> this was something similar in the -impl draft?  Anyway, I replaced 
>>>> "Interface Instance or Type" and "interface instances and types" with 
>>>> "interface" (two occurrences). Both of these cases seem to be left-over 
>>>> references to a heading of a property rather than the actual property name.
>>>> 
>>>> It's the same for "Timeout for aborting the Connection" in one place where 
>>>> it should instead be "connTimeout" (so I replaced it).
>>>> 
>>>> Also, we had this kind of thing in the TCP user timeout text; fixed.
>>>> 
>>>> We have one occurrence of "multipath aware" and one occurrence of 
>>>> "multipath-aware". I made this uniform, using the version with the dash.
>>>> 
>>>> Fixed capitalization of "unidirectional send" and "unidirectional receive" 
>>>> to make it uniform (capital "U").
>>>> 
>>>> "MessageContext" and "Message Context" appear only in RFC 9622, not the 
>>>> others; messageContext appears also in RFC 9623. It made sense to use the 
>>>> capital words in RFC 9622 though, but these should at least be uniform. I 
>>>> chose MessageContext (before: 27 occurrences, whereas "Message Context" 
>>>> has 11).
>>>> 
>>>> For RFC-to-be-9623, I tried to use <tt> style wherever we refer to API 
>>>> elements from RFC 9622.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <rfc9622_updateMW.xml><rfc9623_updateMW.xml><rfc9622.xml><rfc9623.xml>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2024, at 3:13 AM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> 
>>>>> While reviewing this cluster of documents*, please review the questions 
>>>>> below regarding consistency across the cluster. These questions are in 
>>>>> addition 
>>>>> to the document-specific questions sent for each RFC-to-be. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your reply will likely impact two or more of the documents in the 
>>>>> cluster, so 
>>>>> please discuss off-list as necessary and then let us know how to proceed. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Cluster 508 (C508) currently in AUTH48 state:
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.html 
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.html 
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.html
>>>>> (In addition, the .pdf, .txt, .xml, and diff files are available.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> You may track the progress of all documents in this cluster through 
>>>>> AUTH48 at:
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/C508
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) The following terms were used inconsistently in this group of 
>>>>> documents.
>>>>> We chose to use the latter forms and have already incorporated these 
>>>>> changes 
>>>>> (we raise them here simply for awareness).  Please let us know any 
>>>>> objections.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Connection properties (1 instance) / Connection Properties (>70 instances)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pre-Establishment Phase (1 instance in text) / pre-establishment phase (6 
>>>>> instances in text) 
>>>>>  Note - we also closed this compound per the dictionary use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> protocol stack(s) (7 instances) / Protocol Stack(s) (~130 instances)
>>>>> 
>>>>> remote Endpoint Identifier (1 instance) / Remote Endpoint Identifier (~21 
>>>>> instances) 
>>>>> 
>>>>> selection properties (1 instance) / Selection Properties (~47 instances,
>>>>> along with ~26 instances of "Selection Property") 
>>>>> 
>>>>> sockets API (1 instance) / socket API (1 instance) / Socket API (14 
>>>>> instances)
>>>>> 
>>>>> transport services (4 instances) / Transport Services (>300 instances) 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Transport Services Architecture (1 instance in text) / Transport Services 
>>>>> architecture (8 instances in text)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Transport Services implementation (5 instances) /
>>>>> Transport Services Implementation (~70 instances) 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) The following term appears to be hyphenated inconsistently in this 
>>>>> group of documents.  
>>>>> Please let us know if/how these uses may be made consistent.  
>>>>> Notes: 
>>>>> a.) the hyphenated compound is more prevalent in published RFCs and 
>>>>> b.) the closed compound is used in a proper noun in RFC-to-be 9622.
>>>>> 
>>>>> multi-stream / multistream
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) We see that draft-ietf-taps-interface uses the unquoted form Interface 
>>>>> Instance
>>>>> or Type (enclosed in <tt> in the XML file), but draft-ietf-taps-impl
>>>>> uses the quoted form "Interface Instance or Type".  Which style is
>>>>> preferred?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4) Please verify that the capitalization of terms appears as desired for 
>>>>> the cluster.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> NOTE: Due to the large number of terms as well as the nature of their 
>>>>> use, we suggest that 
>>>>> authors make any edits directly to the XML files (instead of via email) 
>>>>> for ease of use and 
>>>>> to avoid any possible confusion.  Further, we suggest getting any other 
>>>>> substantive changes 
>>>>> made to the documents prior to implementing these updates for ease of 
>>>>> review in diff files 
>>>>> (this is likely directed mostly toward RFC 9623 at this point).
>>>>> 
>>>>> A list of these terms has been posted here: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/clusterC508caps.txt 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Notes about the list:
>>>>> 
>>>>> -we have grouped the list according to topic instead of alphanumerically 
>>>>> to aid in showing 
>>>>> possible discrepancies.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -we have marked the terms with “c” that we have already identified as 
>>>>> likely impacting more 
>>>>> than one document in the cluster (this may not be exhaustive).  Note also 
>>>>> that the list may 
>>>>> include terms we made consistent in our question 1 above (for 
>>>>> completeness). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -we have included some comments and questions in the list itself.  Please 
>>>>> review.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At a minimum, we suggest making identifiable patterns consistent 
>>>>> throughout 
>>>>> the document set with regard to capitalization (of both the name itself 
>>>>> and the label).  
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example:
>>>>> 
>>>>> properties:
>>>>> examples: 
>>>>>   preferred properties vs. Preferred properties
>>>>>    Protocol Selection Property vs. interface Selection Property
>>>>>    Message Properties vs. Message Contexts vs. Message Context Property
>>>>> 
>>>>> actions:
>>>>> example: termination action vs. Abort action
>>>>> 
>>>>> objects:
>>>>> example: Listener object vs. ErrorCode Object
>>>>> 
>>>>> events:
>>>>> example: receive event vs. Receive event (vs. Received event)
>>>>>   Note - events have been made consistent with regard to the use of <> in 
>>>>> RFC-to-be 9622.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 5) We have already sent some document-specific queries related to the use 
>>>>> of <tt>.  For your convenience, we have also created a cluster-wide list 
>>>>> that is sorted alphanumerically and marked by RFC number: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/clusterC508tt.txt
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please verify that the use of <tt> appears as desired both within the 
>>>>> documents and across the cluster.  Again, any desired updates are best 
>>>>> communicated through updates to the XML file itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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