Greetings,

Tommy - Thanks for sending along your approvals for each of the RFCs to be in 
this cluster.  We have updated the AUTH48 status pages accordingly.

Just a reminder to everyone that the AUTH48 status pages for this cluster can 
be viewed at https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/C508.

In looking through the AUTH48 status pages, it appears as though we’ve received 
approvals at some point in the process from each author of RFC-to-be 9622.  

Michael - can you please confirm that all desired updates appear as intended in 
RFC-to-be 9622 and reconfirm your approval?  Once we receive this, we can 
change the state to AUTH48-DONE while it awaits the other two docs in this 
cluster.   For the other authors, we will assume your approvals stand unless we 
hear otherwise.

Thank you.

RFC Editor/mf 





> On Dec 13, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Tommy Pauly <tpa...@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thanks for all of these updates! I approve this latest version of RFC 9622.
> 
> Best,
> Tommy
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> Thank you for sending these along.  We have updated on our end to post these 
>> versions and ensure that changes that may have been submitted simultaneously 
>> are represented.  
>> 
>> We have sent replies to each RFC-to-be thread (9622 and 9623) and copied 
>> them below for everyone’s convenience.
>> 
>> Please have a look and let us know if any further updates are necessary.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> RFC Editor/mf
>> 
>> RFC-to-be 9622:
>> Michael,
>> 
>> Thank you for sending along the files.  We have synced our files with those 
>> you submitted.
>> 
>> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after 
>> publication.  
>> 
>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.txt
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.pdf
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.xml
>> 
>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes 
>> only)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622-lastdiff.html (last to current 
>> version only)
>> 
>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have.  
>> 
>> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 status 
>> page prior to moving forward to publication.  
>> 
>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
>> 
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9622
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> RFC Editor/mf
>> 
>> RFC-to-be 9623:
>> Michael,
>> 
>> Thank you for sending along the files.  We have synced our files with those 
>> you submitted (including making sure the updates that may have come in while 
>> you were working appear as expected).
>> 
>> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after 
>> publication.  
>> 
>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.txt
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.pdf
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.xml
>> 
>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes 
>> only)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623-lastdiff.html (last to current 
>> version only)
>> 
>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have.  
>> 
>> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 status 
>> page prior to moving forward to publication.  
>> 
>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
>> 
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9623
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> RFC Editor/mf
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2024, at 12:32 AM, Michael Welzl <mich...@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> This is about question 5.
>>> 
>>> I am attaching updated xml files for the RFC-to-be-9622 and 9623 that 
>>> address this question.
>>> I am also attaching the originals so you can make sure which version I 
>>> worked with - a diff between these files and the very last version could 
>>> indicate some very minor changes that you have applied after I made the 
>>> change.
>>> 
>>> I downloaded the original XML files and made these updates on December 10, 
>>> and gave the other authors until now to comment (two have, and said they 
>>> were fine with these changes).
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> = = = = =
>>> 
>>> Please feel free to ignore the following text - but in case of doubt, when 
>>> looking at my version, perhaps these notes that I took when doing the 
>>> changes are useful:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The name of the "final" property is "final", and using it marks a message 
>>> as Final. I changed one "Final" to lowercase to account fo this. Also, both 
>>> "final" and "Final" are <tt> marked in such sentences.
>>> 
>>> One occurrence of "Final" seemed odd, and rather than discussing whether it 
>>> should be "final", "<tt>Final</t>" or "<tt>final</tt>", I renamed it to 
>>> "last".
>>> 
>>> In one place, removed "()" after "Initiate", "Listen" and "Rendezvous".
>>> Removed one "()" after "Set".
>>> 
>>> Another thing: strange - I think we corrected this before, but perhaps this 
>>> was something similar in the -impl draft?  Anyway, I replaced "Interface 
>>> Instance or Type" and "interface instances and types" with "interface" (two 
>>> occurrences). Both of these cases seem to be left-over references to a 
>>> heading of a property rather than the actual property name.
>>> 
>>> It's the same for "Timeout for aborting the Connection" in one place where 
>>> it should instead be "connTimeout" (so I replaced it).
>>> 
>>> Also, we had this kind of thing in the TCP user timeout text; fixed.
>>> 
>>> We have one occurrence of "multipath aware" and one occurrence of 
>>> "multipath-aware". I made this uniform, using the version with the dash.
>>> 
>>> Fixed capitalization of "unidirectional send" and "unidirectional receive" 
>>> to make it uniform (capital "U").
>>> 
>>> "MessageContext" and "Message Context" appear only in RFC 9622, not the 
>>> others; messageContext appears also in RFC 9623. It made sense to use the 
>>> capital words in RFC 9622 though, but these should at least be uniform. I 
>>> chose MessageContext (before: 27 occurrences, whereas "Message Context" has 
>>> 11).
>>> 
>>> For RFC-to-be-9623, I tried to use <tt> style wherever we refer to API 
>>> elements from RFC 9622.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <rfc9622_updateMW.xml><rfc9623_updateMW.xml><rfc9622.xml><rfc9623.xml>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2024, at 3:13 AM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> 
>>>> While reviewing this cluster of documents*, please review the questions 
>>>> below regarding consistency across the cluster. These questions are in 
>>>> addition 
>>>> to the document-specific questions sent for each RFC-to-be. 
>>>> 
>>>> Your reply will likely impact two or more of the documents in the cluster, 
>>>> so 
>>>> please discuss off-list as necessary and then let us know how to proceed. 
>>>> 
>>>> * Cluster 508 (C508) currently in AUTH48 state:
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.html 
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.html 
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.html
>>>> (In addition, the .pdf, .txt, .xml, and diff files are available.)
>>>> 
>>>> You may track the progress of all documents in this cluster through AUTH48 
>>>> at:
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/C508
>>>> 
>>>> 1) The following terms were used inconsistently in this group of documents.
>>>> We chose to use the latter forms and have already incorporated these 
>>>> changes 
>>>> (we raise them here simply for awareness).  Please let us know any 
>>>> objections.
>>>> 
>>>> Connection properties (1 instance) / Connection Properties (>70 instances)
>>>> 
>>>> Pre-Establishment Phase (1 instance in text) / pre-establishment phase (6 
>>>> instances in text) 
>>>>   Note - we also closed this compound per the dictionary use.
>>>> 
>>>> protocol stack(s) (7 instances) / Protocol Stack(s) (~130 instances)
>>>> 
>>>> remote Endpoint Identifier (1 instance) / Remote Endpoint Identifier (~21 
>>>> instances) 
>>>> 
>>>> selection properties (1 instance) / Selection Properties (~47 instances,
>>>> along with ~26 instances of "Selection Property") 
>>>> 
>>>> sockets API (1 instance) / socket API (1 instance) / Socket API (14 
>>>> instances)
>>>> 
>>>> transport services (4 instances) / Transport Services (>300 instances) 
>>>> 
>>>> Transport Services Architecture (1 instance in text) / Transport Services 
>>>> architecture (8 instances in text)
>>>> 
>>>> Transport Services implementation (5 instances) /
>>>> Transport Services Implementation (~70 instances) 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2) The following term appears to be hyphenated inconsistently in this 
>>>> group of documents.  
>>>> Please let us know if/how these uses may be made consistent.  
>>>> Notes: 
>>>> a.) the hyphenated compound is more prevalent in published RFCs and 
>>>> b.) the closed compound is used in a proper noun in RFC-to-be 9622.
>>>> 
>>>> multi-stream / multistream
>>>> 
>>>> 3) We see that draft-ietf-taps-interface uses the unquoted form Interface 
>>>> Instance
>>>> or Type (enclosed in <tt> in the XML file), but draft-ietf-taps-impl
>>>> uses the quoted form "Interface Instance or Type".  Which style is
>>>> preferred?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 4) Please verify that the capitalization of terms appears as desired for 
>>>> the cluster.  
>>>> 
>>>> NOTE: Due to the large number of terms as well as the nature of their use, 
>>>> we suggest that 
>>>> authors make any edits directly to the XML files (instead of via email) 
>>>> for ease of use and 
>>>> to avoid any possible confusion.  Further, we suggest getting any other 
>>>> substantive changes 
>>>> made to the documents prior to implementing these updates for ease of 
>>>> review in diff files 
>>>> (this is likely directed mostly toward RFC 9623 at this point).
>>>> 
>>>> A list of these terms has been posted here: 
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/clusterC508caps.txt 
>>>> 
>>>> Notes about the list:
>>>> 
>>>> -we have grouped the list according to topic instead of alphanumerically 
>>>> to aid in showing 
>>>> possible discrepancies.
>>>> 
>>>> -we have marked the terms with “c” that we have already identified as 
>>>> likely impacting more 
>>>> than one document in the cluster (this may not be exhaustive).  Note also 
>>>> that the list may 
>>>> include terms we made consistent in our question 1 above (for 
>>>> completeness). 
>>>> 
>>>> -we have included some comments and questions in the list itself.  Please 
>>>> review.
>>>> 
>>>> At a minimum, we suggest making identifiable patterns consistent 
>>>> throughout 
>>>> the document set with regard to capitalization (of both the name itself 
>>>> and the label).  
>>>> 
>>>> For example:
>>>> 
>>>> properties:
>>>> examples: 
>>>>    preferred properties vs. Preferred properties
>>>>     Protocol Selection Property vs. interface Selection Property
>>>>     Message Properties vs. Message Contexts vs. Message Context Property
>>>> 
>>>> actions:
>>>> example: termination action vs. Abort action
>>>> 
>>>> objects:
>>>> example: Listener object vs. ErrorCode Object
>>>> 
>>>> events:
>>>> example: receive event vs. Receive event (vs. Received event)
>>>>    Note - events have been made consistent with regard to the use of <> in 
>>>> RFC-to-be 9622.
>>>> 
>>>> 5) We have already sent some document-specific queries related to the use 
>>>> of <tt>.  For your convenience, we have also created a cluster-wide list 
>>>> that is sorted alphanumerically and marked by RFC number: 
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/clusterC508tt.txt
>>>> 
>>>> Please verify that the use of <tt> appears as desired both within the 
>>>> documents and across the cluster.  Again, any desired updates are best 
>>>> communicated through updates to the XML file itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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