Hello,

Thanks for all of these updates! I approve this latest version of RFC 9622.

Best,
Tommy

> On Dec 12, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Thank you for sending these along.  We have updated on our end to post these 
> versions and ensure that changes that may have been submitted simultaneously 
> are represented.  
> 
> We have sent replies to each RFC-to-be thread (9622 and 9623) and copied them 
> below for everyone’s convenience.
> 
> Please have a look and let us know if any further updates are necessary.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/mf
> 
> RFC-to-be 9622:
> Michael,
> 
> Thank you for sending along the files.  We have synced our files with those 
> you submitted.
> 
> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after 
> publication.  
> 
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>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.xml
> 
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>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes 
> only)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622-lastdiff.html (last to current 
> version only)
> 
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> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9622
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> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/mf
> 
> RFC-to-be 9623:
> Michael,
> 
> Thank you for sending along the files.  We have synced our files with those 
> you submitted (including making sure the updates that may have come in while 
> you were working appear as expected).
> 
> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after 
> publication.  
> 
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>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.pdf
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.xml
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> only)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623-lastdiff.html (last to current 
> version only)
> 
> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may have.  
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> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 status 
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> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
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> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9623
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/mf
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2024, at 12:32 AM, Michael Welzl <mich...@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> This is about question 5.
>> 
>> I am attaching updated xml files for the RFC-to-be-9622 and 9623 that 
>> address this question.
>> I am also attaching the originals so you can make sure which version I 
>> worked with - a diff between these files and the very last version could 
>> indicate some very minor changes that you have applied after I made the 
>> change.
>> 
>> I downloaded the original XML files and made these updates on December 10, 
>> and gave the other authors until now to comment (two have, and said they 
>> were fine with these changes).
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>> 
>> = = = = =
>> 
>> Please feel free to ignore the following text - but in case of doubt, when 
>> looking at my version, perhaps these notes that I took when doing the 
>> changes are useful:
>> 
>> 
>> The name of the "final" property is "final", and using it marks a message as 
>> Final. I changed one "Final" to lowercase to account fo this. Also, both 
>> "final" and "Final" are <tt> marked in such sentences.
>> 
>> One occurrence of "Final" seemed odd, and rather than discussing whether it 
>> should be "final", "<tt>Final</t>" or "<tt>final</tt>", I renamed it to 
>> "last".
>> 
>> In one place, removed "()" after "Initiate", "Listen" and "Rendezvous".
>> Removed one "()" after "Set".
>> 
>> Another thing: strange - I think we corrected this before, but perhaps this 
>> was something similar in the -impl draft?  Anyway, I replaced "Interface 
>> Instance or Type" and "interface instances and types" with "interface" (two 
>> occurrences). Both of these cases seem to be left-over references to a 
>> heading of a property rather than the actual property name.
>> 
>> It's the same for "Timeout for aborting the Connection" in one place where 
>> it should instead be "connTimeout" (so I replaced it).
>> 
>> Also, we had this kind of thing in the TCP user timeout text; fixed.
>> 
>> We have one occurrence of "multipath aware" and one occurrence of 
>> "multipath-aware". I made this uniform, using the version with the dash.
>> 
>> Fixed capitalization of "unidirectional send" and "unidirectional receive" 
>> to make it uniform (capital "U").
>> 
>> "MessageContext" and "Message Context" appear only in RFC 9622, not the 
>> others; messageContext appears also in RFC 9623. It made sense to use the 
>> capital words in RFC 9622 though, but these should at least be uniform. I 
>> chose MessageContext (before: 27 occurrences, whereas "Message Context" has 
>> 11).
>> 
>> For RFC-to-be-9623, I tried to use <tt> style wherever we refer to API 
>> elements from RFC 9622.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <rfc9622_updateMW.xml><rfc9623_updateMW.xml><rfc9622.xml><rfc9623.xml>
>>> On Dec 4, 2024, at 3:13 AM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> While reviewing this cluster of documents*, please review the questions 
>>> below regarding consistency across the cluster. These questions are in 
>>> addition 
>>> to the document-specific questions sent for each RFC-to-be. 
>>> 
>>> Your reply will likely impact two or more of the documents in the cluster, 
>>> so 
>>> please discuss off-list as necessary and then let us know how to proceed. 
>>> 
>>> * Cluster 508 (C508) currently in AUTH48 state:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.html 
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9622.html 
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9623.html
>>> (In addition, the .pdf, .txt, .xml, and diff files are available.)
>>> 
>>> You may track the progress of all documents in this cluster through AUTH48 
>>> at:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/C508
>>> 
>>> 1) The following terms were used inconsistently in this group of documents.
>>> We chose to use the latter forms and have already incorporated these 
>>> changes 
>>> (we raise them here simply for awareness).  Please let us know any 
>>> objections.
>>> 
>>> Connection properties (1 instance) / Connection Properties (>70 instances)
>>> 
>>> Pre-Establishment Phase (1 instance in text) / pre-establishment phase (6 
>>> instances in text) 
>>>    Note - we also closed this compound per the dictionary use.
>>> 
>>> protocol stack(s) (7 instances) / Protocol Stack(s) (~130 instances)
>>> 
>>> remote Endpoint Identifier (1 instance) / Remote Endpoint Identifier (~21 
>>> instances) 
>>> 
>>> selection properties (1 instance) / Selection Properties (~47 instances,
>>> along with ~26 instances of "Selection Property") 
>>> 
>>> sockets API (1 instance) / socket API (1 instance) / Socket API (14 
>>> instances)
>>> 
>>> transport services (4 instances) / Transport Services (>300 instances) 
>>> 
>>> Transport Services Architecture (1 instance in text) / Transport Services 
>>> architecture (8 instances in text)
>>> 
>>> Transport Services implementation (5 instances) /
>>> Transport Services Implementation (~70 instances) 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2) The following term appears to be hyphenated inconsistently in this group 
>>> of documents.  
>>> Please let us know if/how these uses may be made consistent.  
>>> Notes: 
>>> a.) the hyphenated compound is more prevalent in published RFCs and 
>>> b.) the closed compound is used in a proper noun in RFC-to-be 9622.
>>> 
>>> multi-stream / multistream
>>> 
>>> 3) We see that draft-ietf-taps-interface uses the unquoted form Interface 
>>> Instance
>>> or Type (enclosed in <tt> in the XML file), but draft-ietf-taps-impl
>>> uses the quoted form "Interface Instance or Type".  Which style is
>>> preferred?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 4) Please verify that the capitalization of terms appears as desired for 
>>> the cluster.  
>>> 
>>> NOTE: Due to the large number of terms as well as the nature of their use, 
>>> we suggest that 
>>> authors make any edits directly to the XML files (instead of via email) for 
>>> ease of use and 
>>> to avoid any possible confusion.  Further, we suggest getting any other 
>>> substantive changes 
>>> made to the documents prior to implementing these updates for ease of 
>>> review in diff files 
>>> (this is likely directed mostly toward RFC 9623 at this point).
>>> 
>>> A list of these terms has been posted here: 
>>> 
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/clusterC508caps.txt 
>>> 
>>> Notes about the list:
>>> 
>>> -we have grouped the list according to topic instead of alphanumerically to 
>>> aid in showing 
>>> possible discrepancies.
>>> 
>>> -we have marked the terms with “c” that we have already identified as 
>>> likely impacting more 
>>> than one document in the cluster (this may not be exhaustive).  Note also 
>>> that the list may 
>>> include terms we made consistent in our question 1 above (for 
>>> completeness). 
>>> 
>>> -we have included some comments and questions in the list itself.  Please 
>>> review.
>>> 
>>> At a minimum, we suggest making identifiable patterns consistent throughout 
>>> the document set with regard to capitalization (of both the name itself and 
>>> the label).  
>>> 
>>> For example:
>>> 
>>> properties:
>>> examples: 
>>>     preferred properties vs. Preferred properties
>>>      Protocol Selection Property vs. interface Selection Property
>>>      Message Properties vs. Message Contexts vs. Message Context Property
>>> 
>>> actions:
>>> example: termination action vs. Abort action
>>> 
>>> objects:
>>> example: Listener object vs. ErrorCode Object
>>> 
>>> events:
>>> example: receive event vs. Receive event (vs. Received event)
>>>     Note - events have been made consistent with regard to the use of <> in 
>>> RFC-to-be 9622.
>>> 
>>> 5) We have already sent some document-specific queries related to the use 
>>> of <tt>.  For your convenience, we have also created a cluster-wide list 
>>> that is sorted alphanumerically and marked by RFC number: 
>>> 
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/clusterC508tt.txt
>>> 
>>> Please verify that the use of <tt> appears as desired both within the 
>>> documents and across the cluster.  Again, any desired updates are best 
>>> communicated through updates to the XML file itself.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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