On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Martin  Hannigan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Why should entities get a break on a standard in existence and applied to all 
> for years?
>
> And why is tbe aggregate, in examples given, broken? ARIN already applies 
> that to some applicants.
>
> No support.
>
> Support post exhaustion.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
>> On May 2, 2014, at 20:52, Jimmy Hess <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:33 PM, John Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2 May 2014, Jimmy Hess wrote:
>>>
>>> I think 95% is too high, if the previous example of 3 /24's at 100% and
>>> 1 /24 at 75% is realistic.  That works out to 93.75% aggregate utilization,
>>> not quite reaching the bar, so 90% might be a better threshold.
>>
>> For 3 /24s   yes.      The difficulty here, is trying to pick a single
>> utilization proportion that works regardless   of the aggregate
>> allocation size, to allow for the loss of the oddball /26 or /27 that
>> can neither be returned nor reused,    perhaps another method is in
>> order  than presuming a single   aggregate utilization criterion  is
>> the most proper.
>>
>>
>> The more resources you are allocated,  the more opportunity to make
>> your resource allocation efficient.    By the time you get down to a
>> /26,   an entire  /24 is less than 0.4%.
>>
>> Aggregate Resources Allocated                     Required Aggregate
>> Utilization criterion
>> more than a /25                                                75%
>> more than a /22,                                               80%
>> more than a /20                                                85%
>> more than a /19                                                90%
>> more than a /18                                                95%
>> more than a /17                                                97%
>> more than a /16                                                98%
>> more than a /15                                                99%
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> OTOH, /24's are pretty small and maybe that example was just for
>>> illustration.  If people really in this situation have much larger
>>> allocations, they would be easier to slice and dice and thus use 
>>> (relatively)
>>> efficiently.  75% of a /24 leaves just 64 addresses (a /26) unused, which
>>> even if contiguous are hard to redeploy for some other use.  75% of a /16
>>> would leave 16384 unused addresses, which could be utilized much more 
>>> easily.
>>>
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't much care since my company has its /24, and that's
>>> probably all the IPv4 we'll ever need :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Santos
>>> Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
>>> 781-861-0670 ext 539
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -JH
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