On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 01:14, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:

> Before flames, I would like to notice that we have only limited amount of 
> hardware for tests. The current hardware vendors are producing very large 
> number of configurations, modifications etc. especially for cheap 
> hardware. It's very difficult to support all variations, so please, be 
> patient until a developer analyses the given problem and fix it.
> 
Jaroslav,
   I see no reason to flame you for what you've said here. It seems
about right to me. However, please define 'be patient'. I was told
before I purchased the HDSP 9652 in November 2002 that it would be a
good card for me to spend my money on. It is now Jan. 2004 (15 months
later) and there are a number of things that do not work correctly. To
the best of my knowledge there is *no* developer looking at this card.
There is no developer (as far as I can tell) that even has one of these
in their system and uses it daily. How long should I be expected to be
patient?

   As I eluded to in my only other response to this thread, it is my
opinion (and only my opinion) that the developers of Linux have made a
structural mistake with the management of Alsa and sound cards. It would
have been better to support just a few cards but support them perfectly
than support many, many cards and have so many of them work bot well. It
should have been a requirement that no card be supported unless a
dedicated developer owns one, uses it daily and agrees to really support
the thing. That hasn't happened with the RME cards and now those of us
that were told they would work well are not so happy with Alsa.

   Overall I think Alsa is great for the folks who have both the right
hardware and dedicated support. For the rest of us it's not so amazing.

   That will be the last I have to say on this thread.

Thanks much,
Mark



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