On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 11:05 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 5/15/20 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > On 5/15/2020 10:13 AM, James Cook wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant wrote: > >>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to set its chamber > >>>> switch to that chamber. > >>> > >>> > >>> I CFJ "In a generic Agoran context, to refer a proposal to a chamber > >>> is to set its chamber switch to that chamber." > >>> > >>> Arguments: > >>> > >>> I've been putting "Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to > >>> set its chamber switch to that chamber." at the top of my referral > >>> messages since February. My hope is that people have seen it enough by > >>> now that the average Agoran knows what it means without needing to see > >>> the definition. > >>> > >>> -Aris > >> > >> I think it would be good to keep repeating the definition. Otherwise, > >> even if current players now understand it, as new players join I don't > >> see how they're supposed to figure it out except by guessing. With > >> some Agoran jargon, guessing might be enough, but for a word that only > >> appears once a week and only in one context, I don't think that gives > >> enough information for people to be really confident in their guess > >> about what it means. > >> > >> - Falsifian > >> > > > > Well e's not using a random strange word like Quang, either. To "refer" > a > > proposal to chamber" seems similar enough to me (in common usage terms of > > refer) to "set the chamber of a proposal" in R2607 (and there's not > really > > any other possible rules-interpretations), such that anyone who takes the > > time to learn what a "chamber" is would likely figure it out... > > > > -G. > > If we're allowed to use the words "earn", "award" and "qualify", whose > meanings cannot be reasonably assumed, at least not in their full scope > (i.e. you qualify for ribbons for seven days after you earn them, > earning and awarding oneself are related but different despite seeming > similar, and even more intricacies), then we are certainly allowed to > use "refer" > > -- > Trigon > Well those terms appear in the rules -- >From R. Lee