On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 09:14 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Actually you might add it to the FAQ: "If you gain omnipotence, >> it's considered good form to count coup and leave a minor marker >> saying 'look, I could have changed all the rules if I'd wanted to', >> then fix the bug that brought you there. This is because truly >> trashing/changing the rules will probably just lead to people >> becoming annoyed and quitting instead of staying around to admire >> your cleverness." > > Of course, nowadays we have Wins by Junta, which have to be reported in > the Herald's report (although they don't necessarily imply complete > gamestate control, just control of the game at Power 1 which would be > enough to badly mess it up in practice if someone wanted to). And coming > up with a lasting monument is rather hard, IMO I wouldn't mind if a > future scam did that, but it would have to do it /well/.
It depends on how you define lasting monument, given that anything could be removed if we really wanted to. I mean, I expected at the time that the Town Fountain might become the target of each successive scammer, its text showing the most recent scam and its amendment #s counting the scams. But now it's part of tradition like R104 I suppose (and of course, Murphy as the next scammer with the Fantasy Rule Scam also wanted to keep the fountain, so just did patent titles). I'm actually not a big fan of the Junta rule; I'd prefer it if winning scammers just gave themselves a unique patent title of their own, it makes for a more colorful Herald's report and might be a good balance between "lasting" and "frozen in the Rules"; I'm more apt to recall Murphy's scam because I see the "Fantasy Rules" titles then I would recall "the Nth Junta Champion". It's worth nothing that Maud intended the Map of Agora to be a power-1 equivalent of the graffiti wall as well; the embedded names were put in through a few "power 1 proposal victories" (mostly commemorating the existence of an Ordinary coalition with enough votes to deface it by vote rather than outright scams, the equivalent of team wins by clout) but that's also fallen out of fashion too so it commemorates a list of names from another time as well. Well my bet with comex was a good test of whether power 1 could lead to omnipotence... the answer being "it did but it wasn't trivial to find a way" but that sure doesn't mean it's good to get complacent and vote in a power-1 junta out of apathy! -G.
