On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:37 PM John Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, at 1:42 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
>
> Space, time, and matter are not fundamental. Physics tells us what we
> observe, not what is. The key property of an observer is not consciousness,
> but simply memory. Writing to memory is not time symmetric because the
> prior content is erased irreversibly. This is why time seems to us to have
> a direction. The difference between past and future is what you know.
>
>
> I use the definition of consciousness as UCP, Universal Communication
> Protocol or MDL protocol, which would include  state potential or like
> you’re saying memory potential from a panpsychist perspective.
>
> The authors of this paper, which is an enjoyable read if you’re into
> consciousness and category theory, arrive at a similar description as they
> indicate it as “Consciousness is a universal (mapping) property.” What is
> the mapping property IMO? UCP.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.12179
>

I found the abstract painful and stopped there. How do you study what you
can't even define? Exactly what test are you using to distinguish a
conscious human from a zombie LLM passing the Turing test by using nothing
more than text prediction? Doesn't this prove there is no difference
between having feelings and being programmed to act out feelings?

You have a sense of consciousness. That's all it is. It motivates you by
positive reinforcement to continue thinking, perceiving, and doing things
by not dying. This behavior produces more offspring.

In quantum mechanics, an observer is any object that can store at least one
bit of memory. The mystery is how is this possible when all physics is time
reversible?

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