> From: Matt Mahoney via AGI <[email protected]> > > > > What is qualia? How do I know if monkeys, > > fish, insects, human embryos, robots, or thermostats have qualia and how > > would they behave differently if they did or did not. What is the test?
That is an ontologically flawed question. Jim Bromer On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:34 AM John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Mahoney via AGI <[email protected]> > > > > You didn't answer my question. What is qualia? How do I know if monkeys, > > fish, insects, human embryos, robots, or thermostats have qualia and how > > would they behave differently if they did or did not. What is the test? > > > > Qualia = Compressed impressed samples symbolized for communication. How do > you even know that a fish is a fish? How do you prove that it exists? By > using qualia, and something with qualia originally symbolized it for > transmission into the human general consciousness. > > Do fish have qualia? Ans.: Do they communicate? Does a fish know that another > fish is a fish? I think so. They use another type of signaling and alphabet > than humans but their multi-agent signaling is coherent in relation to the > species group. If they did not have qualia the fish group would show > incoherence. > > You're more asking if you take a fish and isolate it how do you know if it > has qualia. > > I would ask you, if you are given a single lossily compressed sample of > sensory input how do you that the original uncompressed sample exists (or > existed)? How do you prove it? Maybe there is no original. Maybe it doesn't > exist therefore qualia would not exist. > > John > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T9c94dabb0436859d-M3d7200c5b4809e26c948d98b Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
