On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 12:12 PM John Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Mahoney via AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com>
> >
> > We could say that everything is conscious. That has the same meaning as
> > nothing is conscious. But all we are doing is avoiding defining
> something that is
> > really hard to define. Likewise with free will.
>
>
> I disagree. Some things are more conscious. A thermostat might be
> negligibly conscious unless there are thresholds.
>

When we say that X is more conscious tha Y we really mean that X is more
like a human than Y.

The problem is still there how to distinguish between p-zombie and a
> conscious being.
>

The definition of a p-zombie makes this impossible. This should tell you
something.

Qualia is what perception feels like. Your belief in qualia (correcting my
previous email) is motivated by mostly positive reinforcement of your
perceptions.

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