You didn't answer my question. What is qualia? How do I know if monkeys, fish, insects, human embryos, robots, or thermostats have qualia and how would they behave differently if they did or did not. What is the test?
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 4:50 AM John Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Mahoney via AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> > > > > What do you think qualia is? How would you know if something was > > experiencing it? > > > > You could look at qualia from a multi-systems signaling and a > compressionist standpoint. They're compressed impressed samples of the > environment and other agents. Somewhat uniquely compressed by the agent due > to genetic diversity and experience so the qualia have similarities and > differences across agents. And the genetic tree is exhaustively searching. > Similarly conscious agents would infer similar qualia experience of other > agents but not exactly the same even if genetically identical due to > differing knowledge and experience. Also the genetic tree is modelling the > environment but this type of model is an approximation and this contributes > to the need for compressed sampling from agent variety. > > So one could suggest a consciousness topology influenced by agent > environmental complexity and communication complexity. And the topology > must have coherent and symbiotic structure that contribute to agent > efficiency... meaning if effects the species intelligence. > > An agent not experiencing similar qualia though would exhibit some level > of decoherence related to similar agents until their consciousness model is > effectively equal. How do you test if a bot is a bot? You test it's > reaction and if the reaction is expected. The bot tries to predict what the > reaction should be but cannot predict all expected reactions. The more > perfect the model the more difficult to detect. For example, CAPTCHA. Not > working well now since the bots are better so the industry is moving to > biometric visual. What comes after that? Turing test becomes qualia test. > But it's all related to communication protocol due to separateness since > full qualia cannot be transmitted they are further lossily compressed and > symbolized for transmission, an imperfect process. But agents need to > communicate experience so imperfect communication is another reason for > consciousness. We reference symbols of qualia in other people's or, > multi-agent consciousness... or the general consciousness. > > John > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T9c94dabb0436859d-Mbd56920949c4685cdd6095cf Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
