The issue is parents rights to control the worldview of their children. Some people are very narrow minded and do not want extraneous info coming into the minds of their kids from a school teacher. They don’t want a teacher pontificating on gay/trans/BLM/defund the police/recreational drugs/premarital sex/ etc. I believe parents have a sacred duty to protect their children. Some believe that means protecting them from any worldview other than their own. Many of them point to religious ideals as justification for their methods.
So, I understand that. And I accept that kids need to not be forced to confront controversial ideas when in elementary school. Stick to the three Rs. The other stuff will come later. But activists have pushed trans ideology in our elementary schools here trying to convince elementary kids they are trans. I am wholly against that. I don’t think you even know what your sexuality is until you are at least 65. In any event, that kind of behavior by teachers is stepping way over the line. As is political rhetoric from an elementary school teacher. Stars and Bars, BLM, Swastica, Rainbow, MAGA, Knights of Columbus, Masons all are the same. All represent an ideology that some find repugnant. So best to not allow any special interest flags. Keep it sterile. Let the parents have the freedom to mess up their kids. As has always been allowed. Why should only Rainbow get a carve out to be “special”? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:11 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling this morning Rainbow flags aren't political. If someone thinks it's political, they may be a bigot. I grew up with zero LGBT representation or exposure. No TV shows, movies, rainbow flags, supportive people, etc. Yet I still knew I liked guys more than girls at a younger age. I didn't officially come out as gay until 33 because of the bigots in our world. I have supportive friends and family today but I wish I was told that being gay was acceptable in middle or highschool. If I grew up around people or seeing anything saying LGBT was okay and I'd be supported, I would have come out much sooner. If there was a highschool teacher with a rainbow flag or just anything that showed they were an accepting teacher, I may have felt more comfortable. I hate that bigots attack Disney or any other TV or movie that has one LGBT character. It's called representation and it's not different than having black, Asian, or women characters. 24% of Gen Z identify as LGBT in the latest Gallup poll. It's time to stop hating on people for being born a certain way. The only choice an LGBT person has is to live a fake life in the closet or come out and be happy and authentic. So back to your flags. A Nazi flag is a symbol of hate and is political. Something like a rainbow flag is not political. It simply represents a group of people who are marginalized and hated by bigots for being born different. It's a flag of support and not any political organization. Am I decked out in rainbows like some? No. But I always feel better when I see one knowing whoever flies it doesn't hate me. On Thu, Mar 6, 2025, 7:55 AM Chuck <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote: We had Pell grants and student loans before the DE. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 5, 2025, at 11:50 AM, Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com > <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: > > There is widespread misunderstanding of what the US Dept of Education does > (and doesn't) do. It definitely does not set curriculum or make personnel > decisions. Think student loans and FAFSA. > > FAFSA is very popular because students applying to college can fill out one > application and then send it to the colleges of their choice, rather than > filling out separate financial aid applications for each school. BTW, most > college students get some form of financial aid, especially at private > schools. One of the problems is that private colleges keep hiking their > list price which nobody pays but that discourages poor students from even > applying even though they might get a full scholarship from a Harvard type > school. > > https://www.npr.org/2025/02/04/nx-s1-5286311/trump-schools-education-departm > ent-funding-cuts-congress-student-loans > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On > Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 12:30 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling this morning > > Not for long. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >> On 3/5/2025 9:21 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: >> USA I think I recall you folks have a department of education that >> also sets some standards > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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