no, we were talking about the same retards i think

On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:38 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I hope I'm not the retard you're referring to.  I thought my "unelected"
> speech was fairly well articulated.
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Steve Jones <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2025 3:29 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
>
> I laugh so hard at the "unelected" retard speech. Doge literally forced
> the passwords from the unelected people that held them, half of which hold
> less a security clearance than musk himself holds.
>
> I giggle like mary jane rottencrotch the first time angry johnny
> fingerbangs her through her pretty pink panties every time people defend
> the "government data".... bitch thats my data, thats your data and it
> should already ALL be in publicly accessible real time databases with only
> account numbers blanked. You want money from the taxpayers, you dont get
> privacy. Your address, your name, all known identifying info. If you get
> approved for painting green pigeons onto dance shoes for peruvian fainting
> goats owned by trannies, that fine, but the tax payers who funded it get to
> know what color your house is, I wanna know how big your grandmas tits are
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 1:15 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "we are getting pretty close to the end of the income tax so long as
> people shut off the news and quit being told what to think."
>
> Cool, as long as they do something about the spending too.
>
> The "he's got our data" stuff is rather alarmist.  A lot of people have
> that same data.  Owning a company based on targeted advertising, he might
> already know more about you than the government does.
>
> "he's unelected" is a statement simplified for dummies.  The question is
> why should we trust THIS unelected guy with no senate confirmation, but NOT
> trust the unelected, unconfirmed people at the GAO and OIG?  I haven't yet
> received an answer from anyone I've asked this question to, so I *assume *the
> answer is that people are willing to believe him because of his political
> affiliation, or because he's saying what they want to hear.  I'm ready to
> be educated if there's a better answer to that.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Steve Jones <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2025 1:03 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
>
> Clinton pretty well did it, and balanced the budget on paper and Obama
> formed doge, so they both did their part.
>
>
> transparency is a pretty gender fluid word these days. means entirely
> different things to different people.
>
>
> we are getting pretty close to the end of the income tax so long as people
> shut off the news and quit being told what to think.
>
>
> hand out queens (many in this industry for sure) and the gimme gimmes are
> scared, rightfully so, and the grifters are petrified, even more rightfully
> so, lynch every one of them.
>
> "he's unelected" "he's got our data" - the battle cry of morons or the
> propaganda of those who love their morons.
>
> I hope RFK does the right thing and comes out against huffing sarin gas
> and drinking ricin slushies. The demand for sarin and castor beans will be
> through the roof with that media push and the course will correct.
>
> then we just need somebody to get the rumor out that oxygen makes you gay,
> belt and lemon sales will skyrocket and right that ship too.
>
> the level of mental retardation we are witnessing is astounding.
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 8:13 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> I just saw a video of both Clinton and Obama saying they'd do what DOGE is
> doing, but they seemingly just paid lip service to it. I do want it to be
> more transparent, but I also want them to keep going.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2025 8:00:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
>
>
>
> A better question is why do we have to take their word for it when it's
> spent?
> The good, final outcome of this is there is a framework in place now for
> all future spending to be on public record in a clear and transparent
> manner, publicly accessible, with the spend requests and links to the
> outcome reports. That should t require foia
>
>
> My guess is half of what they claw back will ultimately be paid out when
> it's explained and justified.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 7:23 AM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
> An example I just saw on doge.gov was an $8mil USDA contract with a
> screen shot of a record. Nothing on the screen demonstrates how it was
> waste, fraud, or abuse. The title of the contract was some fluffy sounding
> thing about environmental compliance, and as far as I can tell the title is
> what we’re supposed to accept as evidence. That was an example from the
> day’s “batch” with no information provided about whatever else was canceled
> that day.
>
>
> Maybe they’ll publish more details later for “maximal transparency”, but
> right now we are forced to take their word for it.
>
>
> It’s fair to have a problem with unelected bureaucrats wielding most of
> the power of the federal government, but the same should not become OK just
> because the bureaucrat is an ideologically appropriate apparatchik.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS
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> From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > on behalf of Steve Jones <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 9:41:06 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com >
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website ( www.doge.gov )
>
>
> yeah, super scary. boogeyman level
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 6:17 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote:
>
>
>
> This seems about par for the course with these guys. Scary stuff.
>
>
> I love how this administration uses the term "maximally transparent", or
> some derivation thereof everywhere they can. I guess if you say it enough,
> it must be true, right?
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 5:59 PM Ken Hohhof < khoh...@kwom.com > wrote:
>
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> https://www.wired.com/story/doge-website-is-just-one-big-x-ad/
>
>
>
> DOGE’s Website Is Just One Big X Ad
>
> The source code for the new Department of Government Efficiency’s
> “official US government website” points to X as its primary source of
> authority, while sharing links to the site sends users to x.com .
>
>
>
> At a press conference in the Oval Office this week, Elon Musk promised the
> actions of his so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) project
> would be “maximally transparent,” thanks to information posted to its
> website.
>
> At the time of his comment, the DOGE website was empty . However, when the
> site finally came online Thursday morning, it turned out to be little more
> than a glorified feed of posts from the official DOGE account on Musk’s own
> X platform, raising new questions about Musk’s conflicts of interest in
> running DOGE .
>
> DOGE.gov claims to be an “official website of the United States
> government,” but rather than giving detailed breakdowns of the cost savings
> and efficiencies Musk claims his project is making, the homepage of the
> site just replicated posts from the DOGE account on X.
>
> A WIRED review of the page’s source code shows that the promotion of
> Musk’s own platform went deeper than replicating the posts on the homepage.
> The source code shows that the site’s canonical tags direct search engines
> to x.com rather than DOGE.gov.
>
> A canonical tag is a snippet of code that tells search engines what the
> authoritative version of a website is. It is typically used by sites with
> multiple pages as a search engine optimization tactic, to avoid their
> search ranking being diluted.
>
> In DOGE’s case, however, the code is informing search engines that when
> people search for content found on DOGE.gov, they should not show those
> pages in search results, but should instead display the posts on X.
>
> “It is promoting the X account as the main source, with the website
> secondary,” Declan Chidlow, a web developer , tells WIRED. “This isn't
> usually how things are handled, and it indicates that the X account is
> taking priority over the actual website itself.”
>
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>
> All the other US government websites WIRED checked used their own homepage
> in their canonical tags, including the official White House website.
> Additionally, when sharing the DOGE website on mobile devices, the source
> code creates a link to the DOGE X account rather than the website itself.
>
> “It seems that the DOGE website is secondary, and they are prodding people
> in the direction of the X account everywhere they can,” Chidlow adds.
>
> Alongside the homepage feed of X posts, a section of Doge.gov labeled
> “Savings” now appears. So far the page is empty except for a single line
> that reads: “Receipts coming soon, no later than Valentine's day,” followed
> by a heart emoji .
>
> A section entitled “Workforce” features some bar charts showing how many
> people work in each government agency, with the information coming from
> data gathered by the Office of Personnel Management in March 2024.
>
> A disclaimer at the bottom of the page reads: “This is DOGE's effort to
> create a comprehensive, government-wide org chart. This is an enormous
> effort, and there are likely some errors or omissions. We will continue to
> strive for maximum accuracy over time.”
>
> Another section, entitled “Regulations,” features what DOGE calls the
> “Unconstitutionality Index,” which it describes as “the number of agency
> rules created by unelected bureaucrats for each law passed by Congress in
> 2024.”
>
> The charts in this section are also based on data previously collected by
> US government agencies. Doge.gov also links to a Forbes article from last
> month that was written by Clyde Wayne Crews, a member of the Heartland
> Institute, a conservative think tank that pushed climate change
> disinformation and questioned the links between tobacco and lung cancer .
> It is also a major advocate for privatizing government departments .
>
> The site also features a “Join” page which allows prospective DOGE
> employees to apply for roles including “software engineers, InfoSec
> engineers, and other technology professionals.” As well as requesting a
> Github account and résumé, the form asks visitors to “provide 2-3 bullet
> points showcasing exceptional ability.”
>
> The website does not list a developer, but on Wednesday, web application
> security expert Sam Curry outlined in a thread on X how he was able to
> identify the developer of the site as DOGE employee Kyle Shutt.
>
> Curry claims he was able to link a Cloudflare account ID found in the
> site’s source code to Shutt, who used the same account when developing
> Musk’s America PAC website.
>
> On Thursday, Drop Site News reported, citing sources within FEMA, that
> Shutt had gained access to the agency’s proprietary software controlling
> payments. Earlier this week, Business Insider reported that Shutt, who
> recently worked at an AI interviewing software company, was listed as one
> of 30 people working for DOGE.
>
> Neither Shutt, DOGE, nor the White House responded to requests for comment.
>
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