Best to pop some palomitos, sit back and enjoy the show. I love the
nuts on both sides when their heads explode. I do wish “The View”
would eventually admit they are wrong about something, anything. Just
one thing
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2025 1:07 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
"we are getting pretty close to the end of the income tax so long as
people shut off the news and quit being told what to think."
Cool, as long as they do something about the spending too.
The "he's got our data" stuff is rather alarmist. A lot of people
have that same data. Owning a company based on targeted advertising,
he might already know more about you than the government does.
"he's unelected" is a statement simplified for dummies. The question
is why should we trust THIS unelected guy with no senate confirmation,
but NOT trust the unelected, unconfirmed people at the GAO and OIG? I
haven't yet received an answer from anyone I've asked this question
to, so I /assume /the answer is that people are willing to believe him
because of his political affiliation, or because he's saying what they
want to hear. I'm ready to be educated if there's a better answer to
that.
-Adam
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<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2025 1:03 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov)
Clinton pretty well did it, and balanced the budget on paper and Obama
formed doge, so they both did their part.
transparency is a pretty gender fluid word these days. means entirely
different things to different people.
we are getting pretty close to the end of the income tax so long as
people shut off the news and quit being told what to think.
hand out queens (many in this industry for sure) and the gimme gimmes
are scared, rightfully so, and the grifters are petrified, even more
rightfully so, lynch every one of them.
"he's unelected" "he's got our data" - the battle cry of morons or the
propaganda of those who love their morons.
I hope RFK does the right thing and comes out against huffing sarin
gas and drinking ricin slushies. The demand for sarin and castor beans
will be through the roof with that media push and the course will correct.
then we just need somebody to get the rumor out that oxygen makes you
gay, belt and lemon sales will skyrocket and right that ship too.
the level of mental retardation we are witnessing is astounding.
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 8:13 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
I just saw a video of both Clinton and Obama saying they'd do what
DOGE is doing, but they seemingly just paid lip service to it. I
do want it to be more transparent, but I also want them to keep going.
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From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2025 8:00:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website (www.doge.gov <http://www.doge.gov>)
A better question is why do we have to take their word for it when
it's spent?
The good, final outcome of this is there is a framework in place
now for all future spending to be on public record in a clear and
transparent manner, publicly accessible, with the spend requests
and links to the outcome reports. That should t require foia
My guess is half of what they claw back will ultimately be paid
out when it's explained and justified.
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 7:23 AM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com >
wrote:
Steve,
An example I just saw on doge.gov <http://doge.gov> was an $8mil
USDA contract with a screen shot of a record. Nothing on the
screen demonstrates how it was waste, fraud, or abuse. The title
of the contract was some fluffy sounding thing about environmental
compliance, and as far as I can tell the title is what we’re
supposed to accept as evidence. That was an example from the day’s
“batch” with no information provided about whatever else was
canceled that day.
Maybe they’ll publish more details later for “maximal
transparency”, but right now we are forced to take their word for it.
It’s fair to have a problem with unelected bureaucrats wielding
most of the power of the federal government, but the same should
not become OK just because the bureaucrat is an ideologically
appropriate apparatchik.
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From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > on behalf of Steve Jones <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 9:41:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DOGE website ( www.doge.gov
<http://www.doge.gov> )
yeah, super scary. boogeyman level
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 6:17 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote:
This seems about par for the course with these guys. Scary stuff.
I love how this administration uses the term "maximally
transparent", or some derivation thereof everywhere they can. I
guess if you say it enough, it must be true, right?
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 5:59 PM Ken Hohhof < khoh...@kwom.com > wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/doge-website-is-just-one-big-x-ad/
DOGE’s Website Is Just One Big X Ad
The source code for the new Department of Government Efficiency’s
“official US government website” points to X as its primary source
of authority, while sharing links to the site sends users to x.com
<http://x.com> .
At a press conference in the Oval Office this week, Elon Musk
promised the actions of his so-called Department of Government
Efficiency (DOGE) project would be “maximally transparent,” thanks
to information posted to its website.
At the time of his comment, the DOGE website was empty . However,
when the site finally came online Thursday morning, it turned out
to be little more than a glorified feed of posts from the official
DOGE account on Musk’s own X platform, raising new questions about
Musk’s conflicts of interest in running DOGE .
DOGE.gov claims to be an “official website of the United States
government,” but rather than giving detailed breakdowns of the
cost savings and efficiencies Musk claims his project is making,
the homepage of the site just replicated posts from the DOGE
account on X.
A WIRED review of the page’s source code shows that the promotion
of Musk’s own platform went deeper than replicating the posts on
the homepage. The source code shows that the site’s canonical tags
direct search engines to x.com <http://x.com> rather than DOGE.gov.
A canonical tag is a snippet of code that tells search engines
what the authoritative version of a website is. It is typically
used by sites with multiple pages as a search engine optimization
tactic, to avoid their search ranking being diluted.
In DOGE’s case, however, the code is informing search engines that
when people search for content found on DOGE.gov, they should not
show those pages in search results, but should instead display the
posts on X.
“It is promoting the X account as the main source, with the
website secondary,” Declan Chidlow, a web developer , tells WIRED.
“This isn't usually how things are handled, and it indicates that
the X account is taking priority over the actual website itself.”
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All the other US government websites WIRED checked used their own
homepage in their canonical tags, including the official White
House website. Additionally, when sharing the DOGE website on
mobile devices, the source code creates a link to the DOGE X
account rather than the website itself.
“It seems that the DOGE website is secondary, and they are
prodding people in the direction of the X account everywhere they
can,” Chidlow adds.
Alongside the homepage feed of X posts, a section of Doge.gov
labeled “Savings” now appears. So far the page is empty except for
a single line that reads: “Receipts coming soon, no later than
Valentine's day,” followed by a heart emoji .
A section entitled “Workforce” features some bar charts showing
how many people work in each government agency, with the
information coming from data gathered by the Office of Personnel
Management in March 2024.
A disclaimer at the bottom of the page reads: “This is DOGE's
effort to create a comprehensive, government-wide org chart. This
is an enormous effort, and there are likely some errors or
omissions. We will continue to strive for maximum accuracy over time.”
Another section, entitled “Regulations,” features what DOGE calls
the “Unconstitutionality Index,” which it describes as “the number
of agency rules created by unelected bureaucrats for each law
passed by Congress in 2024.”
The charts in this section are also based on data previously
collected by US government agencies. Doge.gov also links to a
Forbes article from last month that was written by Clyde Wayne
Crews, a member of the Heartland Institute, a conservative think
tank that pushed climate change disinformation and questioned the
links between tobacco and lung cancer . It is also a major
advocate for privatizing government departments .
The site also features a “Join” page which allows prospective DOGE
employees to apply for roles including “software engineers,
InfoSec engineers, and other technology professionals.” As well as
requesting a Github account and résumé, the form asks visitors to
“provide 2-3 bullet points showcasing exceptional ability.”
The website does not list a developer, but on Wednesday, web
application security expert Sam Curry outlined in a thread on X
how he was able to identify the developer of the site as DOGE
employee Kyle Shutt.
Curry claims he was able to link a Cloudflare account ID found in
the site’s source code to Shutt, who used the same account when
developing Musk’s America PAC website.
On Thursday, Drop Site News reported, citing sources within FEMA,
that Shutt had gained access to the agency’s proprietary software
controlling payments. Earlier this week, Business Insider reported
that Shutt, who recently worked at an AI interviewing software
company, was listed as one of 30 people working for DOGE.
Neither Shutt, DOGE, nor the White House responded to requests for
comment.
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