You can search all the spending records here: https://www.usaspending.gov/
You can also download a Postgres database of the entire record.....which I want 
to do, but I'll have to upgrade my hard drive because it's quite large.  They 
also have an API.

The problem you still have is that knowing that $8mil was spent on a USDA 
contract for some environmental compliance thing-a-ma-bob doesn't tell you what 
that really did or what value came from it.  I.E.: spending is already 
transparent.  The uncertainty and doubt are on what that spending actually 
meant.  It would be great if there was an easy way to find all of it.

And by the way, even if every single thing DOGE cuts is really fraud and waste 
it's still just taking a whiz on a bonfire.  We're running deficits in the 
trillions now.  We are in the upside-down demographic crunch caused by retiring 
baby boomers.  We had known this was coming for decades and nobody did anything 
about it.  Our number one expenditure in 2024 was 1.46 trillion dollars for 
Social Security.  We're on track for the Social Security fund for old-age and 
survivors to be depleted in 2033, and from then on the shortfalls will become 
additional deficit spending.  Medicare was almost another trillion in 2024 and 
is expected to grow about 7% per year through 2032.  Interest on our existing 
debt is our #3 spending item right now, and it will become #1 within 10 years.  
As the interest payments grow the problem becomes a self-reinforcing feedback 
loop.

DOGE cuts and tariffs are not even going to put a dent in this problem, and 
meanwhile we're getting more income tax cuts.  It'll be interesting to see how 
the predictions change next year, but it seems like we are driving towards a 
cliff and putting our foot on the accelerator.  The longer we put this off the 
more painful it will become to deal with.  And it looks like we're going to put 
it off until we have a financial implosion.

I would LOVE for the Trump administration to prove me wrong, but In the 
meantime, I'll be thinking about how to survive and prepare my children for an 
economic collapse coming in the next couple of decades.

-Adam




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A better question is why do we have to take their word for it when it's spent?
The good, final outcome of this is there is a framework in place now for all 
future spending to be on public record in a clear and transparent manner, 
publicly accessible, with the spend requests and links to the outcome reports. 
That should t require foia

My guess is half of what they claw back will ultimately be paid out when it's 
explained and justified.

On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 7:23 AM Adam Moffett 
<dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Steve,

An example I just saw on doge.gov<http://doge.gov> was an $8mil USDA contract 
with a screen shot of a record.  Nothing on the screen demonstrates how it was 
waste, fraud, or abuse.  The title of the contract was some fluffy sounding 
thing about environmental compliance, and as far as I can tell the title is 
what we’re supposed to accept as evidence.  That was an example from the day’s 
“batch” with no information provided about whatever else was canceled that day.

Maybe they’ll publish more details later for “maximal transparency”, but right 
now we are forced to take their word for it.

It’s fair to have a problem with unelected bureaucrats wielding most of the 
power of the federal government, but the same should not become OK just because 
the bureaucrat is an ideologically appropriate apparatchik.



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yeah, super scary. boogeyman level

On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 6:17 PM Jason McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
wrote:
This seems about par for the course with these guys.  Scary stuff.

I love how this administration uses the term "maximally transparent", or some 
derivation thereof everywhere they can.  I guess if you say it enough, it must 
be true, right?

On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 5:59 PM Ken Hohhof 
<khoh...@kwom.com<mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:

https://www.wired.com/story/doge-website-is-just-one-big-x-ad/



DOGE’s Website Is Just One Big X Ad

The source code for the new Department of Government Efficiency’s “official US 
government website” points to X as its primary source of authority, while 
sharing links to the site sends users to x.com<http://x.com>.



At a press conference in the Oval 
Office<https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/tech/elon-musk-x-oval-office/index.html>
 this week, Elon Musk promised the actions of his so-called Department of 
Government Efficiency (DOGE)<https://www.wired.com/tag/doge/> project would be 
“maximally transparent,” thanks to information posted to its website.

At the time of his comment, the DOGE website was 
empty<https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3lhwsmk4iac2u>. 
However, when the site finally came online Thursday morning, it turned out to 
be little more than a glorified feed of posts from the official DOGE account on 
Musk’s own X platform, raising new questions about Musk’s conflicts of interest 
in running 
DOGE<https://www.npr.org/2025/02/12/nx-s1-5293382/x-elon-musk-doge-cfpb>.

DOGE.gov claims to be an “official website of the United States government,” 
but rather than giving detailed breakdowns of the cost savings and efficiencies 
Musk claims his project is making, the homepage of the site just replicated 
posts from the DOGE account on X.

A WIRED review of the page’s source code shows that the promotion of Musk’s own 
platform went deeper than replicating the posts on the homepage. The source 
code shows that the site’s canonical 
tags<https://moz.com/learn/seo/canonicalization> direct search engines to 
x.com<http://x.com> rather than DOGE.gov.

A canonical tag is a snippet of code that tells search engines what the 
authoritative version of a website is. It is typically used by sites with 
multiple pages as a search engine optimization tactic, to avoid their search 
ranking being diluted.

In DOGE’s case, however, the code is informing search engines that when people 
search for content found on DOGE.gov, they should not show those pages in 
search results, but should instead display the posts on X.

“It is promoting the X account as the main source, with the website secondary,” 
Declan Chidlow, a web developer<https://vale.rocks/>, tells WIRED. “This isn't 
usually how things are handled, and it indicates that the X account is taking 
priority over the actual website itself.”

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All the other US government websites WIRED checked used their own homepage in 
their canonical tags, including the official White House website. Additionally, 
when sharing the DOGE website on mobile devices, the source code creates a link 
to the DOGE X account rather than the website itself.

“It seems that the DOGE website is secondary, and they are prodding people in 
the direction of the X account everywhere they can,” Chidlow adds.

Alongside the homepage feed of X posts, a section of Doge.gov labeled “Savings” 
now appears. So far the page is empty except for a single line that reads: 
“Receipts coming soon, no later than Valentine's day,” followed by a heart 
emoji<https://www.wired.com/story/heart-emoji-lost-all-meaning/>.

A section entitled “Workforce” features some bar charts showing how many people 
work in each government agency, with the information coming from data gathered 
by the Office of Personnel Management in March 2024.

A disclaimer at the bottom of the page reads: “This is DOGE's effort to create 
a comprehensive, government-wide org chart. This is an enormous effort, and 
there are likely some errors or omissions. We will continue to strive for 
maximum accuracy over time.”

Another section, entitled “Regulations,” features what DOGE calls the 
“Unconstitutionality Index,” which it describes as “the number of agency rules 
created by unelected bureaucrats for each law passed by Congress in 2024.”

The charts in this section are also based on data previously collected by US 
government agencies. Doge.gov also links to a Forbes article from last month 
that was written by Clyde Wayne Crews, a member of the Heartland Institute, a 
conservative think tank that pushed climate change 
disinformation<https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/heartland-institute-leak-exposes-strategies-of-climate-attack-machine/>
 and questioned the links between tobacco and lung 
cancer<https://www.tobaccotactics.org/article/heartland-institute/>. It is also 
a major advocate for privatizing government 
departments<https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/in-shift-key-climate-denialist-group-heartland-institute-pivots-to-policy/>.

The site also features a “Join” page which allows prospective DOGE employees to 
apply for roles including “software engineers, InfoSec engineers, and other 
technology professionals.” As well as requesting a Github account and résumé, 
the form asks visitors to “provide 2-3 bullet points showcasing exceptional 
ability.”

The website does not list a developer, but on Wednesday, web application 
security expert Sam Curry outlined in a thread on 
X<https://x.com/samwcyo/status/1889527715029557607> how he was able to identify 
the developer of the site as DOGE employee Kyle Shutt.

Curry claims he was able to link a Cloudflare account ID found in the site’s 
source code to Shutt, who used the same account when developing Musk’s America 
PAC<https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-election-denial-community-x/>
 website.

On Thursday, Drop Site 
News<https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/doge-fema-funding-access-social-security-numbers>
 reported, citing sources within FEMA, that Shutt had gained access to the 
agency’s proprietary software controlling payments. Earlier this week, Business 
Insider 
reported<https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-staff-list-white-house-2025-2> 
that Shutt, who recently worked at an AI interviewing software company, was 
listed as one of 30 people working for DOGE.

Neither Shutt, DOGE, nor the White House responded to requests for comment.



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